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Just based on information that's out on various outlets, you'll still be catching fish that will be used for various cooking and alchemy recipes.

Many people have misconstrued what Yoshi-P wants people to get out of fishing I think. Even through an interpreter, I don't think he's totally conveyed what his vision for the fishing system is. He has said he wanted it to be a more personal experience, but I don't think people have asked the right questions.

There are two major concerns about the fishing system right now I think:

- The impact on the economy
- The simplification of the fishing mechanics

As I mentioned above, according to recipe data taken from the Phase 3 data files, fish will still be relevant in crafting. When Yoshi-P addressed RMT as an issue for fishing, I think he was talking about NPC resale values of fish. This was a big problem in FFXI (I think there was a fish that vendored for 150k?) and you could also make decent money just vendoring fish in 1.0 as well. NPC buying values for items across the board seem to be really low in ARR now to counteract that.

As far as the fishing mechanics go, no one knows anything for sure yet, but the abilities that were gleaned from the data files (which are subject to change since the fishing system is still in development) allude to it being less interactive than in 1.0, and it also doesn't seem it's going to be the same as fishing or mining where you have the UI box pop up and it lets you select what you want to gather. I could only speculate at this point how it's going to work, but I'm just going to wait and see the final result.

I think what we'll see for fishing at release will be very bare bones. They've already crammed as much stuff as they possibly could into this game for an almost 3 year development cycle now. It has to be understood they can only keep developing so much stuff, otherwise the game would never get released. I'm sure Yoshi-P has seen many of our ideas for fishing and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them made it in post launch. Many people liked the fishing content from FFXI, and he has said they will be tracking the weights of fish again, so this should be something they can implement.

I think mostly we just need to sit tight and see what they present to us in Phase 4 and then criticize it then. I'm personally optimistic about the fact that they've held off releasing the class at this point, just because I'd like to think that the feedback given by those passionate about fishing has not rung on deaf ears and they're trying to make a system that fishers will really enjoy. Even Yoshi-P was talking about the guy in charge of developing the fishing system and his ideas for cloud and sand fishing and sounded really enthusiastic about it, so let's give them a chance to see what they come up with before we assume the worst.

Edited by user Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:04:33 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I have a problem with that Purplenv as there are most definitely aspects of fishing that are not prevalent from what so many people are used to from FFXI. You have to understand that 1.0 for the most part was a huge fail otherwise 2.0/ARR would never have happened.

So you have so many players old and new to 14 that spent all those years in 11 like myself almost a decade fishing and that is what they are used to and want until Yoshi gives us 2.0 fishing and weans everyone off that system. For what it's worth FFXI had it's many flaws in fishing but a lot of people wanted them to take the good and build on that. I agree that it is looking like fishing is going to be really enjoyable. His post was made about a month ago so it's fair game for people to assume bad when we weren't seeing or being told anything otherwise.

I agree that there were a lot of overreactions including from myself but cut him some slack man lol. The game is wonderful and all DoL will be amazing not to mention any tweaks or additions they bring our way over the next decade.

Edited by user Monday, August 19, 2013 8:56:38 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

They seem quite primed already in the infrastructure for some fishing competitions, what with recording your biggest catch and all. I'd love to see this here (similar to the weekly fishing contest in WoW)

I must admit that I too panicked when I first heard the news. It seemed relatively negative.

However, I waited before I really freaked out. Yoshi P didn't let me down. Other than having too much bait/fish and not enough inventory, fishing is amazingly excellent. I also miss the prevalence that fish had in ALC.