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#1 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:27:17 AM(UTC)
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So phase 4 is 8/17 to 19th and those who got in up to phase 3 can play 8/16.

8/24 is early access, 27th launch. cap is lvl 20 for phase 4.

Also, yeah Yoshi said that fishing won't affect the economy.. I know this was discussed before
but he said it here this morning in live letter and.. well I'll post a pic:



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#2 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:00:43 AM(UTC)
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I'm waiting to see a repost of the video. I heard they briefly showed off fishing very early in it.

Sometimes I think things get lost in translation as far as the economy. There's no way that fish won't be used in cooking and alchemy as the recipes are there for them on xivdb. I think what he's meant all along is that it won't be like FFXI where you can catch fish and NPC them and still make a decent profit. Like everything else in this game, vendoring stuff is going to bring next to nothing in terms of money.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:01:02 PM(UTC)
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Here's some more live letter info.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/08/check-out-the-info-and-relevant-screencaps-from-the-eighth-final-fantasy-xiv-letter-from-the-producer-live/

Not sure if that's all of it i didn't stay awake for it.
2-3 day phase 4 and 2 days early access? seems they had to cut that down ALOT from what was originally planned. but arcanist is in phase 4 atleast.


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Question 45 is very interesting wonder what "- Phial of Fantasia (Used to change the appearance of your character)" actually does?

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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:56:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Koroma Go to Quoted Post
Question 45 is very interesting wonder what "- Phial of Fantasia (Used to change the appearance of your character)" actually does?

The description on the Phial of Fantasia is something like...

Users of this draught go to sleep and awake a whole new man (or woman).
[Character will re-enter character creator when next logged in]

That's from XIVDB, back before SE requested they remove the recent leaks from the benchmark.

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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:17:55 PM(UTC)
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https://docs.google.com/...yFhuuEXJYxmOo/edit?pli=1

Yeah I was up for the whole thing.. started dozing off last 15mins lol. Fishing was shown right off the bat but there wasn't anything crazy. He showed the fish logs and the animation for when you caught a fish but it looks pretty much the same except for how it shows you what you caught and again the whole fishing log. Also showed the map which had red circles on it for fishing areas I think and I think he said some would be unknown but..

that's why I ss that part and I'm pretty sure Rein translated it correctly as far as the economy. I sent him a twit msg asking but it should be but I am leaning towards agreeing with Orophin. Yoshi talked several times about rmt so having fishing become a tool for them to make cash ..we'll see I guess.

If you want to see some pics from the letter scroll through this persons tweets:

https://twitter.com/ffxiv_finn

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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:08:09 PM(UTC)
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I wonder if the treasure map thing will be exclusive to Fishing now, or if not, what point there will be to fishing at all. If you like fishing for the sake of fishing, sure you're fine, but I know I won't be leveling/using the class at all unless there's some benefit to it.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:44:13 PM(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 2:03:49 AM(UTC)
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Thought I would add this from the transcript:

; we were doing set up till the last minute so we apologize for the delay
f; we just showed the opening so can you show us some more of fishing
y; we were talign about the concept until now
y; there isn’t much action involved
y; let me move and show
y; you start with casting
y; wait a sec
y; talking
f; talking to Eorzea
y; and you just fish up
y; that’s it and it shows the size
y; also the bait is very important
y; there are a lot of baits available
y; this is PC version, we got the cross menu in
y; fishing log
y; this is log specific for fishing
y; this red orange on the map are the fishing spots
y; we got a lot of them available
y; we got lake, river, ocean
y; so you’ll need to decide which bait
y; if river like lure fishing
y; there are unknown fishing spots like this so you’ll go through them
y; and if your bait is wrong it will warn you
y; we are showing lots of information in-game for different stuff but as for fishing we want
y; players to discover on their own
y; it shows all the fishes in there
y; we got lots of them available
y; as updatess goes we’ll get more
y; this shows the fishes log for the fish with best record
y; as you fish something better the mark will change
y; as for action we made it really simple
y; we also have skill for having live bait
y; where you fish a fish and use that fish as bait for next fish
y; other than that, we got fishes you can only catch at night, or good weather
y; and higher level you get we have desert fishing and sky fishing where you fish flying fishes
y; we have been working with the concept
y; so you can use this while waiting for friends to come online
y; just remember fishing won't be affecting the economy
y; later on you might be able to fish up treasure maps and stuff but basically it’s fishing
f; there is another lalafell over there
y; don’t need to fish up that lalafell
y; if you don’t get your gears set up right, you won’t be able to fish some fishes
y; fishing like this, people set up macro’s and make fishbots and stuff but we have methods to
y; catch those, we can’t say what, since if we do that, that will give ideas to those bot people
f; i see

It seems that fishing will be interesting after all. I especially like that we have to discover most our selves :D
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#9 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 9:02:04 AM(UTC)
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I really want to see what's up with the sky and sand fishing. I'll be testing fishing as much as I can during the open beta since the story content is capped probably about at the point where it was in Phase 3.
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#10 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 9:22:58 AM(UTC)
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As always I'm going to wait for release to judge but and along with what people are saying on beta forums.. if it's just about achievements then fishing will no doubt take a huge backseat for me except to finish it all for the elitist/accomplishment side and then toss the pole in the closet lol. Unless at a later time they make it more intriguing and part of the overall economy.

Not sure how big of a part it will play in helping your FC so we'll see. Was hoping for more but I've turned my attention to DoH and DoW/DoM now.

However, I am really excited for P4 to begin and get stuff lvl'd up and that's just 1 of many things on a long list. Guess it's good the cap is 20 for now.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:10:27 AM(UTC)
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seen a lot of these types of threads since the letter. Maybe it won't be such a pos. If I think back to when I started fishing in ffxi. . when the game came out. It was relaxing, easy and I was definitely not in it for the gil. Hard to remember those days but with that mindset I think fishing will be just fine. I still hope there is more than just the fishing log.

http://www.reddit.com/r/...s_going_on_with_fishing/

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#12 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 8:35:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Vicious Go to Quoted Post
seen a lot of these types of threads since the letter. Maybe it won't be such a pos. If I think back to when I started fishing in ffxi. . when the game came out. It was relaxing, easy and I was definitely not in it for the gil.

I was totally in it for the gil, lol. I was one of the first NA people on my server in FFXI to discover how worthwhile Moat Carp were.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:44:11 PM(UTC)
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Well I wanted some gil lol. Actually I needed a lot of gil to support my bonecrafting and cooking back then but I just loved hanging at the ponds, lakes, traveling and fishing. The whole mmorpg thing was new to me and I was blown away at a game like that and what??? I can fish in this world too? Awesome lol.

Better find another way to make gil in 14 unless we find some good fish that sell well for a certain synth until Yoshi shuts that down.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:22:12 AM(UTC)
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I think this post on the official forums should alleviate any trepidation regarding fishing affecting the economy:

http://forum.square-enix...p;viewfull=1#post1014104

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Hey all,

As Yoshida brought up in previous Letter from the Producer LIVE, fishing is designed to be a casual concept that can be enjoyed between battle content or while waiting for Duty Finder matching or for your friends to log in.

While fishing, your catches will go into your inventory, and you are able to both sell it back to the market, use it as an ingredient in your food recipes, or use it immediately for bait to lure in different fish. You can also fish up coral to be used in various accessories and even more surprising items.


Now all we can hope for is that the fishing system is actually fun! Personally I'm not too worried about it. Maybe it's as simple as just casting your rod and pushing a button to catch a fish, but it seems like there'll be much more involved, like using caught fish as bait to try to catch other ones, and the sea and sand fishing. And over time I'm sure we'll see more content added like ferry routes just for fishing, maybe even stuff that was in FF11 like the weekly fishing content, fish gutting for items, etc.
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