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korgie
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:33:01 PM(UTC)
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Just finished socketing all my gear, here is cap for those that also want to do it

Head - 75 Perception / 4 Gathering
Body - 75 Gathering / 38 Perception
Hands - 56 Gathering / 4 Perception
Legs - 38 Gathering / 4 Perception
Feet - 38 Perception / 4 Gathering
these are values on HQ, idk if its different for NQ

others
Raptorskin survival belt - 16 perception / 3 gathering
raptorskin ring - 3/3
lv40+ neck 3/3
lv40+ wrist 3/3
lv40+ earring 3/3

I know for a fact that aetheryte rings have a cap of 4/4, i would imagine the ilv55 ones are either 4/4 or 5/5 as well, but im not spending on those for +1 stats.

puts you at 307/254 btw!
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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:17:53 AM(UTC)
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tbh we dont use GP so you guys might wanna meld Gathering and perception to an aetheryte ring
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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:15:30 PM(UTC)
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updated better info here!
http://www.disciplesofth...osts&m=7731#post7731

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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:30:42 PM(UTC)
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Your gryphon and rose gold jewelry.. is that necessary for the new big fish or anything else?

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#5 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:49:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Vicious Go to Quoted Post
Your gryphon and rose gold jewelry.. is that necessary for the new big fish or anything else?


i got those so i could do 5p/5g since they are i70
lesser rings were only 4/4

figured i'd just buy the best i could get. five accessories, so you're looking at 5 point loss on stats if you go lesser

but it's up to you. i've had crappy luck all day with the HQ sovereigns.

4.5~ hours
27nq
2hq
11 misses


where a couple others with lower stats than me got more HQ's. one guy claims to have gotten 5 HQ's in 40 minutes.... i have better stats to catch them, but they had butter luck. go figure.... thanks SE

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#6 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:52:44 PM(UTC)
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Interesting, I never thought of using the i70 battle accessories for gathering, nor do I think anyone else has! The accepted cap I thought was 308 and 255, which I have, but with i70 accessories you can put higher grade materia on than the <level 50 regular gathering accessories. Genius!
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#7 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 12:05:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Esprit Libre Go to Quoted Post
Interesting, I never thought of using the i70 battle accessories for gathering, nor do I think anyone else has! The accepted cap I thought was 308 and 255, which I have, but with i70 accessories you can put higher grade materia on than the <level 50 regular gathering accessories. Genius!


yeah, there is really no reason to use the accessories with CP which is what we all have done lol


i ate one of those tomato pies i got from the new fishing quest and hit 332 gathering
the new rod and hat will drive that much much higher!

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#8 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 12:12:47 AM(UTC)
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new info
http://www.disciplesofth...osts&m=7731#post7731

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#9 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2014 8:18:29 AM(UTC)
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congrats and thank you for the info^^ Time to get to work.

Linking to the lodestone thread as well:

http://forum.square-enix...hen-to-land-the-big-oneB

I've got a good amount of crafting and gil farming to do for the upgrades.. wish I hadn't just recently melded.

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#10 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:18:50 AM(UTC)
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Can someone please explain how I can get 356+ gathering?
I melded a a few Materia 3 5+ gathering, I'm still under 300.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 2:00:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: itspirrip Go to Quoted Post
Can someone please explain how I can get 356+ gathering?
I melded a a few Materia 3 5+ gathering, I'm still under 300.


You've got to meld the caps.
See Rescuer's post above.
http://www.disciplesofth...osts&m=7483#post7483

I'm currently Gathering 317 with only standard melds (without forbidden) in HQ gear and standard melds + forbidden in i70 accessories.

Getting i70 accessories hepls to get an extra 5 pts in Gathering and Perception.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:31:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: itspirrip Go to Quoted Post
Can someone please explain how I can get 356+ gathering?
I melded a a few Materia 3 5+ gathering, I'm still under 300.


You've got to meld the caps.
See Rescuer's post above.
http://www.disciplesofth...osts&m=7483#post7483

I'm currently Gathering 317 with only standard melds (without forbidden) in HQ gear and standard melds + forbidden in i70 accessories.

Getting i70 accessories hepls to get an extra 5 pts in Gathering and Perception.


I dont understand the whole cap thing :( if I overmeld, will I lose materia? like the chances o losing... what do I have to do to not lose materia?

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#13 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 2:47:51 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: itspirrip Go to Quoted Post
I dont understand the whole cap thing :(


Meldable gear has certain stat caps, which means that you can only add a limited number of a certain stat to that piece of gear.

In layman's terms this means the following:

You have a wristband to which you can meld a Materia and a +4 Strength Materia.
The wristband can however only have +3 more strength added.
When you add the +4 strength Materia it will fall into the slot just fine, but will only give +3 extra strength to the item.
That extra +1 strength will be forever lost in Limbo.

You can add even more strength materia to them, as much as you want, but they will all give you +0 extra strength.

Thankfully the game will tell you in big red letters when a materia exceeds a stat cap before melding.
Examples:
How not to meld!
Doing it right. (Yes, that is me)

Meldable gear can have a maximum of 5 materia melded to them, however the amount of guaranteed melds depends on the number of materia slots on the gear.

Quote:
if I overmeld, will I lose materia? like the chances o losing...

(Pro tip: Always use the guaranteed slot(s) for the most expensive materia and work down from there.)

The first overmeld has a 44% chance to stick, the second 22%, the third overmeld has a 12% chance and the 4th and last has an 8% chance to stick.
Any unsuccessful meld will lose you the materia and it cannot be recovered.

While the actual successrate depends completely on the luck of the random number generator, the percentages are a good indication of the successful melding chances so you should always stick to using the expensive materia on the phases where you have the highest rate of success.

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what do I have to do to not lose materia?

You can do nothing about it, overmelding is an investment that comes with a risk and the successrates cannot be altered, at all.
You will lose materia in the process, it is unavoidable.

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#14 Posted : Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:14:27 PM(UTC)
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Thank you, Shirai.

I have a bunch in red letters :(
This one have one slot but its already in red, it happens to me very often and I dont know how to avoid these kind of mistakes cause I dont understand the whole cap thing.

[img]http://imgur.com/y9X6qWF[/img]
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#15 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 10:40:54 AM(UTC)
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Zeus just curious.. out of assumption you have Bot and Miner melded.. what jewelry/melds are you using now for those. I know we don't use GP in fishing so would we still use aetheryte rings, etc.

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#16 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 7:27:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Vicious Go to Quoted Post
Zeus just curious.. out of assumption you have Bot and Miner melded.. what jewelry/melds are you using now for those. I know we don't use GP in fishing so would we still use aetheryte rings, etc.


i did mine and bot in 1.0, but since ARR i've never used them again :o
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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:29:55 AM(UTC)
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10 lost HQ silvers in a row last night and 4 NQ's and my setup is exactly like Zeus. I assume this is common or just really bad luck.

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#18 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:23:49 AM(UTC)
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Hey guys, new to the site. I was just wondering if the max gathering and perception could be boosted by using the Storm Carrier's Ring from the Maelstrom Petty Officer items. If you wear each of them you can get +6 gathering before melds. I don't really understand melds so well, and this item doesn't have slots so I don't know how much stat can be melded on them. (But honestly, it wouldn't have to be much to surpass what people are getting on the gryphon rings.)
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#19 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 7:30:25 AM(UTC)
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No slots = no melds possible.

Edit: To clarify, you cannot currently meld onto anything that is unique/untradable.

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:27:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: itspirrip Go to Quoted Post
Thank you, Shirai.

I have a bunch in red letters :(
This one have one slot but its already in red, it happens to me very often and I dont know how to avoid these kind of mistakes cause I dont understand the whole cap thing.

[img]http://imgur.com/y9X6qWF[/img]



I have taken a screen shot where you can see how much will be added to the stat when melding something to the item.

In this case the item is already capped with perception so I will add nothing if I make this meld. Hamlet Puller's Hat can only get 11 perception (if HQ) so adding more will not do anything. Therefore the text below the name of the item with how much stats is added is red. Sometimes you can't avoid red numbers. Fx. In certain cases you will only need 2 more gathering but the least you can add is three. In this case you will get red numbers.

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