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Originally Posted by: Kida  I am not sure about the Heatwave. I have caught three so far (have not spent too much time on it as I want to find other of the big fish as well) and they were all caught during heat wave. I had two or three that got away and they were during heat wave as well so I would say it is a good idea to be there while the weather is hot. I am not sure if it is exclusively during heat waves but all people seem to agree on it though. I guess I've just been having awful luck after getting two easily. Does being 300+ perception really boost the HQ rate on the Storm Riders? I'm just wondering if am doing something wrong or just suffering from bad luck. I caught two and haven't had any luck since seeing a post like this: Originally Posted by: Rescuer caught one on my first cast at Sagolii Dunes got all three in about 15 minutes. make sure you have enough gathering sand leeches as bait http://i.imgur.com/mUwzgFp.jpg Really makes me wonder what I'm doing wrong. edit: You don't happen to be using a mooch macro as well do you? Edited by user Friday, August 01, 2014 5:59:46 PM(UTC)
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I'll just repost this again. It took me 3 consecutive heatwaves to catch mine and never lost one. You need heatwave. I give my stats in that post if you scroll down too and what food I ate.. all too easy. My stats have since changed and I would no longer need the food. http://disciplesofthelan...osts&m=7782#post7782and here http://forum.square-enix...g-Fish-and-You-Patch-2.3Edited by user Friday, August 01, 2014 7:28:28 PM(UTC)
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Yeah I'm at 371 gathering and getting "Gets Away" during heatwaves. So I really don't know what to say. I'm having a wildly different experience than other people here. I guess I'm just having bad luck. Maybe my gathering is "too high" since you were at 355 and the other person who mentioned never missing them was at 364. I seem to be constantly missing the fish now that I've moved to HQ Spinach Quiche from Tomato Pies. Maybe that's it. The other person in the thread you linked mentioned getting lots of "Gets Away" and had 373 gathering. edit: I know that sounds crazy but I'm just trying to find a way to explain my string of bad luck. I've had 5 or more Gets Away at heat waves. 2nd edit: One got away at a heat wave at 2:24 at 363 gathering, so I guess the lower gathering had no effect. I've basically had a non-stop chain of 'gets away' messages since catching my first two every heat wave since. Well I'm just going to assume it's an additional perception check (which doesn't make any sense) or I'm just having awful RNG and even at 348+ this fish can get away. I guess I'll go get some rings so I can have 349 gathering and use the perception food and maybe the perception FC buff next time. Edited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:33:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Worm Yeah I'm at 371 gathering and getting "Gets Away" during heatwaves. So I really don't know what to say. I'm having a wildly different experience than other people here. I guess I'm just having bad luck. Maybe my gathering is "too high" since you were at 355 and the other person who mentioned never missing them was at 364.
I seem to be constantly missing the fish now that I've moved to HQ Spinach Quiche from Tomato Pies. Maybe that's it. The other person in the thread you linked mentioned getting lots of "Gets Away" and had 373 gathering.
edit: I know that sounds crazy but I'm just trying to find a way to explain my string of bad luck. I've had 5 or more Gets Away at heat waves.
2nd edit: One got away at a heat wave at 2:24 at 363 gathering, so I guess the lower gathering had no effect. I've basically had a non-stop chain of 'gets away' messages since catching my first two every heat wave since.
Well I'm just going to assume it's an additional perception check (which doesn't make any sense) or I'm just having awful RNG and even at 348+ this fish can get away. I guess I'll go get some rings so I can have 349 gathering and use the perception food and maybe the perception FC buff next time. Good post! I was thinking exactly the same. I'm at 348g/288p and using Tomato Pies to boost this. Before catching my 3rd one, I lost 5 Olgoi's in a row. Planning to try Perception food next.
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I'm glad someone is having somewhat the same issue as I am and I hope you have the luck I'm beginning to have as well. I'm really after that Coeurl Banana Hammock, Supra Halcyon can wait! This is totally anecdotal but my first cast at 348/306 got me a 3rd Olgoi-Khorkhoi(AND A FOURTH). I wonder perhaps if my first two catches were with perception food as well and I simply wasn't paying attention. I'll look forward to your findings, as well. I'm not quite sure if it's a hard break-point(300?) or just contributes to success, but I think certain fishers like you and I just aimed at hitting the gathering cap with food and simply ignored perception. While others focused on perception with this being a double mooch. Naturally everyone was only looking at gathering. Now maybe on the other hand I'm just breaking out of a savage run of bad luck. Though it sure feels like I've cracked the code.  second edit: Just got a failure with 348/306 Definitely this isn't a guarantee with the perception but it could mitigate the failure rate. It's very speculative but I and other people have been getting a number of failures at 370+ and most people are getting there with food which is going to leave their perception lacking. Also just to clarify by "failure" I mean getting the fish got away message after the mooch. Edited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:06:58 PM(UTC)
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There are a lot of people posting about the fish getting away. I had some bad luck with not getting any for a long time. But I never saw the message about a fish getting away, I just had others bitting. With Buff: Gathering 371 Perception 309 I'm using spinach Quiche, For other Places I sometimes use landtrap salad for higher perception and bether chance to mooch something. But for this fish I need the gathering buff. I also have the perception FC buff active. I don't know if that shows in the char stats. Edited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:16:24 PM(UTC)
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Nice Worm! I resized your pic just fyi.. I could of made it a little bigger but I'm in a hurry to leave the house. It was just full screen.. need 'em smaller pls... or put it in spoiler tags is fine too. Edited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:10:01 PM(UTC)
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Just got my Forager's Fishing Rod today, so I haven't dove into much of the fish with higher gathering requirements yet.
I've seen various sources where people have only confirmed one bait to work for some of the fish that are straight catches. Do you think enough research has been performed with varying baits or people found the first one that worked and just stuck with it?
The reason I ask is ff14angler.com has a really neat chart breaking down percentages of fish caught with each bait. One that sticks out for me, for example, is the Goldenfin in Limsa Upper Decks. The site has recorded about 120 catches with Pill Bug, but there are other baits that seem to favor a Coral Butterfly better, which this fish looks similar to.
One of the other baits that Coral Butterfly responds well to but not so many other fish is the Glow Worm. I think I'm going to try using a stack of this bait to see if I get any catches within the expected time range. I just wonder if this research will end up being pointless and that there's only one bait per type of high level fish or not. |
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Congratulations on your forager rod! I'm using that site as well.. Definitely using some different baits with possible better results. Using pill bug on Octo's seemed so much better mooching. Oro.. I posted this on official forum too but Gigants I keep reading can be as far as weather: clear/fair then other sites or spreadsheets I read any weather. Clear/fair correct? Seems that way. Edited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:53:28 PM(UTC)
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I've personally only tried to catch the Gigantsharks in clear/fair weather. I could fish in Summerford for a while during some other weather to give it a shot though. As to my previous post, I've sort of seen a pattern. It seems that the level 50 fish in an area shares the bait or mooch conditions of it's lower level counterpart in most cases. http://imgur.com/26hlQYAEdited by user Saturday, August 02, 2014 5:27:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Vicious Nice Worm! I resized your pic just fyi.. I could of made it a little bigger but I'm in a hurry to leave the house. It was just full screen.. need 'em smaller pls... or put it in spoiler tags is fine too. No problem, I'm on a really huge monitor and it just slipped my mind.
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Fieldcraft IIIs are 480-500k each on my server. Looks like I'm gonna have to whore myself out (or desynth the crap out of artisan specs) to be able to get all of those. Sucks because I have the 3 Olgoi just sitting around waiting for me now. |
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lol.. Well by all means whore yourself out and take some pics. I have a truckload of hq miner/bot items which are so much easier than Silver Sov's to trade in for forager hats which can desynth into III's. I just have to get my wvr desynth skill up more. To me that is so much easier. |
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Originally Posted by: Vicious lol.. Well by all means whore yourself out and take some pics. I have a truckload of hq miner/bot items which are so much easier than Silver Sov's to trade in for forager hats which can desynth into III's. I just have to get my wvr desynth skill up more. To me that is so much easier. I remember the hell I went through on botany to get my Forager's Axe and Forager Hat. F that. :P Synthed up 90 of the CUL items for Artisan Specs between heat waves and got 2 Fieldcraft 3s out of the 9 items I desynthed, so not bad altogether. The stack of HQ tomatoes I bought more than paid for one of the materias. That Olgoi is a pain in the ass even with HQ quiche food. 373 gathering and I still get the occasional fail to catch. |
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Quote:There are a lot of people posting about the fish getting away. I had some bad luck with not getting any for a long time. But I never saw the message about a fish getting away, I just had others bitting.
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Gathering 371
Perception 309
I'm using spinach Quiche, For other Places I sometimes use landtrap salad for higher perception and bether chance to mooch something. But for this fish I need the gathering buff.
I also have the perception FC buff active. I don't know if that shows in the char stats. I just had my first "the fish gets away" in the dunes. Someone activated an other FC buff so I lost 11 Perception. Got 298 Perception without the FC perception buff.
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Quote:I remember the hell I went through on botany to get my Forager's Axe and Forager Hat. F that. :P
Synthed up 90 of the CUL items for Artisan Specs between heat waves and got 2 Fieldcraft 3s out of the 9 items I desynthed, so not bad altogether. The stack of HQ tomatoes I bought more than paid for one of the materias.
That Olgoi is a pain in the ass even with HQ quiche food. 373 gathering and I still get the occasional fail to catch. Ahh Bot and Miner are so easy to get hq items for the hat. I get 3-4 hq's a lot each node. That is really weird how you guys are having so many issues with Olgoi or at least the lost catches. I am going to go back and see what happens with my current stats plus food and I'll post those up in detail and what happens. We never have FC buffs up for dol stuff. |
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Originally Posted by: Vicious [quote]
I am going to go back and see what happens with my current stats plus food and I'll post those up in detail and what happens. We never have FC buffs up for dol stuff. Fully melded I would get exactly 300 perception. I'm off two points. I think you got the best possible melds? If Perception really plays a role with that fish it could be that you didn't need the FC perception buff cause of those two points. Edited by user Monday, August 04, 2014 10:12:05 AM(UTC)
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Uh.. so ok heatwave isn't just 5-11pm Eorzea time. 8am heatwave started. I didn't know that.. was going by what I read and reported on my first page post of this thread. >.> I'm at 364/297 with nq tom. pie this time. So it's 11am ET now and caught my first Olgoi.. no losses yet. Caught 2nd just before heatwave ended around 3:30pm ET. No losses.  Edited by user Monday, August 04, 2014 10:51:27 AM(UTC)
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I just had a loss with the perception buff too. Gathering 371, Perception 309... Wonder ift his just is random. And you got freaking lucky :D
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lol... well I basically had the same results in the post on page 1. I don't know man. I think it's just rng effect kicking in. I did not go another heatwave as I had to log off. I have 2 more nq pies so I'll try again here in a few. |
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