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Bonytongue (NQ) - Sunstone, Red Pigment, Water Shard
Boxing Pleco (NQ) - Fine Sand, Purple Pigment, Clear Demimateria II,Water Crystal
Seema (NQ) - Fine Sand, 1-2 Water Shard, Red Pigment
Seema (HQ) - Fine Sand, 2 Water Shard
Southern Pike (NQ)- Blue Pigment, Water Crystal
Mitten Crab (HQ) - Yelloq Pigment, 2 Water Shard
Loyal Pleco (NQ)- Electrum Sand, Fine Sand, Water Shard
Pond Mussel (HQ) - Fine Sand, Water Shard
Pirarucu (NQ) - Fine Sand, 1-2 Water Crystal, Green Pigment
Pirarucu (HQ) - Fine Sand, 1 Water Crystal
Oakroot (NQ) - Fine Sand, 1-2 Water Shard , Brown Pigment
Bone Crayfish (HQ)- Fine Sand, Clear Demimateria I
Crayfish (HQ) - Fine Sand
Caravan Eel (HQ) - Yellow Pigment, Water Crystal, Earth Crystal
Doesn't look like HQ gives bether stuff...

Edited by user Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:26:49 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

This might be hard to read as its copied from an excel file, so I'll explain the formatting here. Every fish has 1-3 slots that can contain an item, and as far as I've been able to tell, this is something that never changes for any given fish.

Typically, the first slot is some sort of miscellaneous item, usually fine sand but sometimes something else. The other two slots are always a shard or crystal, if the fish has a second or third slot.

The second slot has always been a water shard or crystal as far as I've been able to see, but the third slot can be any type of shard, depending on the fish. Dunefish seem to give earth shards, for example, while skyfish give wind crystals.

There are a few other weird ones I've noticed, but I wasn't recording data at that point so I'll have to reconfirm.
I should also add that all this data was tested on a minimum of 5 fish, often more.

In any case, the format is as follows: Fish Name, Fish Level, First Item Slot, Second Item Slot, Third Item Slot, followed by a list of possible items for the first slot.

Fish Name Level Slot One: Slot Two: Slot Three: Item 1 Item 2 Item 3

Grip Killfish 32 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Cinnabar Red Pigment
Malm Kelp 4 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Chub 3 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Merlthor Goby 3 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Finger Shrimp 4 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand

Sea Cucumber 7 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Harbor Herring 7 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Moraby Flounder 10 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Pebble Crap 12 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Grade 1 Dark Matter

Tiger Cod 15 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 1
Dwarf Catfish 4 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Bone Crayfish 5 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Bone Chip
Princess Trout 5 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Dusk Goby 6 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Grade 1 Dark Matter

Pipira 7 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Crimson Crayfish 8 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 1
Gudgeon 8 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Brass Loach 9 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Copper Sand Clear Demimateria 1

Maiden Carp 10 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Rainbow Trout 15 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 1

River Crap 15 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Ala Mhigan Fighting Fish 16 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Faerie Bass 17 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Brass Spoon Lure
Dark Sleeper 18 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Grade 1 Dark Matter

Copperfish 20 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Copper Sand
Mudcrab 21 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Mudstone Water Shard
Four-Eyed Fish 24 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Silex
Striped Goby 4 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Blindfish 31 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Cinnabar

Ropefish 32 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Green Pigment

Bonytongue 34 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Red Pigment
Silverfish 36 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Silver Sand Grey Pigment
Vongola Clam 8 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Rothlyt Oyster 17 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 1

Pond Mussel 23 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand
Lamp Marimo 31 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 2 Grade 2 Clear Prism
Sand Bream 36 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard 1-2 Earth Shard Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 2 Yellow Pigment

Dustfish 38 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard 1-2 Earth Shard Fine Sand Yellow Pigment Mithril Sand
Boltfish 48 Misc Item 1 Water Crystal 1 Lightning Crystal Find Sand

Ignus Snail 41 Misc Item 2-3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Red Pigment
Sludgeskipper 44 Misc Item 1-3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Red Pigment
Assassin Betta 47 Misc Item 1 Water Crystal N/A Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 2

Garpike 48 Misc Item 1 Water Crystal N/A Fine Sand Brown Pigment
Vampire Lampern 50 Misc Item 1 Water Crystal N/A Fine Sand??? Red Pigment
Wahoo 43 Misc Item 1-3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Blue Pigment
Coral Butterfly 9 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand Cinnabar

Raincaller 43 Misc Item 1-3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Blue Pigment
Bluebell Salmon 20 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand

Yug'ram Salmon 28 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand
Mitten Crab 34 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Yellow Pigment
Giant Bass 37 Misc Item 2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Sinking Minnow
Discus 40 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand
Seema 35 Misc Item 2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Red Pigment
Blacklip Oyster 44 Misc Item 3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand
Razor Clam 20 Misc Item N/A N/A Fine Sand
Blue Octopus 21 Misc Item 1 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand
Balloonfish 37 Misc Item 2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Red Pigment
Golden Loach 39 Misc Item 3 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Yellow Pigment
Black Sole 28 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard N/A Fine Sand Grade 2 Dark Matter
Silver Sovereign 53 Misc Item 1-2 Water Crystal N/A Fine Sand Grey Pigment
Black Ghost 28 Misc Item 1 Water Shard 1 Lightning Shard Fine Sand Clear Demimateria 1
Storm Rider 39 Misc Item 1-3 Water Shard 1-3 Earth Shard Fine Sand Yellow Pigment Clear Demimateria 2
Dune Manta 41 Misc Item 2-3 Water Shard 1-3 Earth Shard Fine Sand
Antlion Slug 40 Misc Item 1-3 Water Shard 2-3 Earth Shard Fine Sand
Desert Catfish 37 Misc Item 1-2 Water Shard 1-2 Earth Shard Fine Sand Mythril Sand
Caravan Eel 51 Misc Item 1 Water Crystal 1 Earth Crystal Fine Sand

Edited by user Friday, July 18, 2014 12:54:12 PM(UTC)  | Reason: added another batch of fish

South Seas Talisman..

Yesterday I saw something happening at MB.
Someone was buying green fishies for 100k-500k.
At least 4 Gigant Sharks bought for 500k each.

Link to he's character info tells something:
http://na.finalfantasyxi...stone/character/3757643/

Hopefully this means improved fish sales!

So desynthing isn't all that bad actually for culinarians/fishing. Getting multiple shards, etc. I see some that was posted above which I didn't see >.>

Remember you can view your desynth lvl under each craft/doh in your classes tab. Use the desynth ability/icon and not directly choosing an item from your inventory like I did at first >.> Much faster. Example shows in my ss below.



by the way if you're ever on excalibur anyone you can come visit our FC house. Always there. We are in the goblet/thanalan > brimming heart house 19. CR FC. It's open house too and so our some of our members personal rooms. I haven't bought one yet but we have choc stables and gardens and crafting stations and blah blah lol.

Edited by user Friday, July 18, 2014 11:17:28 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I went and desynthed the thousands and thousands of fish I had stockpiled, and got my desynth up to 94 currently and am grinding Sovereigns for that delicious Pareo rare desynth. With all that desynthing, I can give some general guidelines on how fish desynthing works:

All fish, without exception, have a default desynth of 1 Fine Sand, that is occasionally replaced with something else. Starting with fish at a level of around 20-21, you will also get a guaranteed Water Shard from every fish along with the Fine Sand/misc item. Around level 30 the fish start giving 1-2 Water Shards per desynth. At 40 or so, they start giving 1-3 Water Shards. At 45+ they give Water Crystals, and 2-star fish will give 1-2 Water Crystals. I have desynthed every 2.2 big fish, and none of them ever gave clusters, and I doubt any of the new 2.3 big fish do either.

All dunefishing fish will also give a guaranteed Earth Shard/Crystal along with the Water Shards.

All skyfishing fish will give a guaranteed Wind Crystal along with the Water Crystals. There are no skyfish below level 45, so you cannot get Wind Shards from skyfishing, sadly.

All fish have a chance to desynth into a Clear Demimateria instead of a Fine Sand. The grade of the Clear Demimateria depends on the level of the fish, with level 1-25 or so giving Clear Demimateria I, level 25ish-50 giving Clear Demimateria II's, and the only fish I have seen give Clear Demimateria III's are the 2-star fish.

Also, many fish will desynth into pigments that are close to the color of the fish itself. Some fish, instead of pigments, will desynth into Dark Matter ("dark" fish like Dark Bass, Assassin Betta's, etc). Other fish will desynth into clear Glamour Prisms instead, and these are usually no-color, off-color, many-color fish. Fish I have observed giving Prisms are Ocean Clouds, Glass Perch, Four-eyed Fish, Monkfish, Knifefish, Goldfish, Coelecanth, Silver Sovereigns, but there are probably many others). The grade of the matter and prisms is also related to the level of the fish, with higher level fish giving higher level prism. Silver Sovereigns were giving me grade 4 Glamour Prisms.

Fish with some sort of elemental affinity will also give additional shards besides water shards, much like how dunefishing gives earth shards and skyfishing gives wind crystals. These fish I have observed giving an additional shard alongside the water shard, but there are probably others I missed, forgot to record, etc:

Black Ghost - Lightning Shard
Bronze Lake Trout - Fire Shard
Thunderbolt Sculpin - Lightning Shard
Boltfish - Lightning Crystal
Judgment Staff - Lightning Crystal

Some fish, instead of the Fine Sand/Clear Demimateria/Pigment/Dark Matter/Prism, will occasionally give some amusing thing usually related to them. These are sometimes pretty rare, so there are probably many interesting desynths I have yet to see, especially on harder to catch fish. These are the ones I've noticed:

Faerie Bass - Brass Spoon Lure
Copperfish - Copper Sand
Mudcrab - Mudstone
Shadow Catfish - Tree Toad
Plaguefish - Bone Chip, Soiled Femur
Spotted Pleco - Silver Sand
Grip Killifish - Cinnabar
Bonytongue - Sunstone
Whitelip Oyster - Pearl
Silverfish - Silver Sand
Giant Bass - Sinking Minnow
Trader Eel - Allagan Bronze Piece
Loyal Pleco - Electrum Sand
Blacklip Oyster - Black Pearl
Archerfish - Snurble Fly
Agelyss Carp - Allagan Bronze Piece
Sludgeskipper - Weak Blinding Potion
Boltfish - Eye of Lightning
Goldfish - Gold Sand
Coeurlfish - Brass Ring (no idea why XD)
Shall Shell - Pearl
Gigant Octopus - Rosewood Lumber (again, no idea on this one)
Takitaro - Zircon
Silver Sovereign - Venture
Goldenfin - Venture

Also, all dunefishing fish seem to occasionally give Mythril Sand, which I believe is because Mythril Sand/Ore is mined in the Sagolii Desert. And while my sample size of big fish is small, I am willing to believe any big fish may desynth into Ventures.

And last but definitely not least, it seems some big fish can desynth into various super rare bikini-wear vanity items. Silver Sovereigns and Gigantsharks are the known ones right now. I have yet to get this to happen, but it seems to be the case, and I am trying hard now to get a few.

Lucky me :)

I'm optimizing my fisher gear also at the moment, so just a note that Dodore gear isn't optimal for Fisher as Kida mentions in his excellent gear guide.
Link

I edited my post above with a question about desynthing and lvls if anyone can answer it pls.

66.18 culinarian desynth lvl - 0.19 skill pts off a Mahi at 70% chance

Silver Sov. 32% chance at 66.18 skill

Edited by user Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:12:03 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Well that sucks cause I don't have inv space for wvr items that don't stack and the others for my 3 crafts I am desynthing to do that right now.

I had to do some serious house cleaning so I made room and rotating desynths for 3 crafts so I'm not losing skill pts anymore. Finished up my Bot forager tool so on to the new dol tools.

Found this spreadsheet for fish desynthing. Sorry if this was already posted somewhere. This is really nice.

https://docs.google.com/...dit?pli=1#gid=1604725553

Also, this from xivdb and it's done wonders for Octo's. Only mooched blue octopus so far and Octo's of course.

"if u are well geared. ignore all other baits.. Use the Pill Bug Bait.. it has the highest catch chance of harbor herrings which mooches into Octomammoth. All other baits.. floating, sinking minnows, lugworm, rat tails have too much a diluted chance of catching the moochable fishes. (more anchovy, shrimps and kelps than mooch targets)"

Good day for Gigants. 2 nq's and a hq in about 10mins.

Edited by user Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:44:22 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified