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TaruNiska
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 24, 2010 1:24:02 PM(UTC)
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Hello all :)

We're still missing a good amount of information in the recipe databases. I would ask a huge favor from all of you to start posting in this thread any information you have on ranks needed to synth an item that we don't yet have info for. I'm beginning with cooking just because I'm familiar with it, and it has a lot of blanks in the database at the moment. ^^

Below you'll find a list of all our current cooking recipes. After the name you'll see a level range of what's been tested as far as synthing that item. This is the main thing we need to narrow down. So if you've made the item before the rank listed, or tried for several ranks after and couldn't even attempt it, let us know.

Any information you can give us, even if it's just for one rank in cooking, will help us out. Combined with info from everyone else, we'll be able to narrow these ranks down and get them updated for you.

Recipes we've narrowed down the rank for will remain on the list for completion's sake, but will be crossed out

Acorn Cookie - 1
Boiled Crayfish - 1
Boiled Egg - 1
Cottage Cheese - 0
Crab Ball - 0
Crayfish Ball - 0
Dried Prune - 18
Flatbread - 0
Frumenty - 1
Goby Ball - 1
Grilled Carp - 3
Grilled Trout (maiden) - 0
Grilled Trout (rainbow) - 7
Jack-o'-lantern - 10
Jerked Beef - 19
Landtrap Salad - 15
Maple Sugar - 8
Marmot Steak - 10
Orange Juice - 6
Pie Dough - 0
Pineapple Juice - 20
Rabbit Pie - 10
Raisins - 8
Raw Oyster - 17
Salmon Meuniere - 0
Salt Cod - 3
Salted Butter - 0
Spinach Saute - 0
Sweet Cream - 15

River Sand combines
Ala Mhigan Fighting Fish - 16
Allagan Snail - 6
Black Eel - 1
Black Ghost - 13
Blindfish - 0
Brass Loach - 1
Crayfish - 2
Crimson Crayfish - 0
Dark Bass - 0
Dart Frog - 14
Maiden Carp - 7
Nether Newt - 0
Pipira - 9
Rainbow Trout - 10
River Crab - 0
Sandfish - 12
Striped Goby - 8
Tree Toad - 0
Velodyna Carp - 0
Yugr'am Salmon - 0

Sea Sand combines
Blacklip Oyster - 0
Cieldalaes Clam - 0
Coral Butterfly - 0
Jellyfish Umbrella - 0
Malm Kelp - 0
Merlthor Goby - 0
Ocean Cloud - 0
Razor Clam - 0
Scallop - 0
Scallop Shell - 0
Sea Cucumber - 3
Sunrise Tellin - 0
Tiger Cod - 5

Edited by user Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:38:32 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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TaruNiska
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 24, 2010 1:39:19 PM(UTC)
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Acorn Cookie - I believe these are rank 1 but didn't test them out when I first began due to lack of acorns. At rank 16 they were extremely easy to make... I could bold all the way through.

Cottage Cheese - Was making these at rank 16 and they were very easy. YG lists them at rank 5 and I'm inclined to agree.

Crayfish Ball - Was making these around rank 8 or so, due to lack of iron acorns. I believe they could be as low as rank 1.

Dried Prune - Making them at rank 17 and 18 is hard, and they still go unstable even with the cooking guild buff on sometimes. I seem to still fail one out of every four combines. This could be due to not having the Confectionery Training it calls for.

Goby Ball - If I remember correctly I was making these around rank 9 and not failing very many.

Grilled Carp - Good recipe to level on, very low rank... under 5.

Grilled Trout (maiden) - I want to think I was making these at the same time as the Grilled Carp.

Grilled Trout (rainbow) - Was making these at rank 10-12 culinarian and getting decent skillups.

Jack-o'-lantern - Made my first one yesterday for Leon :D YG is saying they're rank 5, but at rank 18 even with a common buff on it was giving me a litte trouble. It was bad weather (cloudy) for crafting but still seemed difficult. The listing of rank 10 on here seems to be good.

Maple Sugar - Definitely higher than the rank 8 listed, but it could be overly difficult (at rank 16) due to using the common buff instead of guild buff like it calls for, and not having Confectionery Training.

Orange Juice - Definitely somewhere around rank 6, unsure if that rank pinpoints it.

Pie Dough - Made some at rank 16, decent synth. Not too hard nor too easy.

Pineapple Juice - Made a few batches between ranks 16 and 18, decent synth that didn't give me too many problems, so I think the listed 20 is a bit high for it.

Rabbit Pie - I was making these also at 16. I think they're a little above 10, but maybe only by a couple of levels. They weren't *extremely* easy but I was able to HQ a few batches.

Raw Oyster - Inclined to agree with the rank 17. I was making them a level before that but they were kind of tough, and are still a decent challenge at 18.

Salt Cod - I was making these at the same time as the Grilled Carp so whichever level one turns out to be, I believe they both are the same.
Fearsyth
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:42:17 PM(UTC)
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Most of the listings are correct. You can attempt a recipe at 10 ranks below it.  Depending on your gear, whether it has a secondary craft needed, whether it requires a training/facility, whether it is based on craftsmanship or magic craftsmanship, and most of all luck with the randomness, you can make the recipe at 10 ranks below.

(Or was it 9 ranks? I've succeeded at recipes 9 ranks above, haven't tried 10 ranks above that I recall. 11 ranks above won't let you attempt.)

Those I've added myself: Dried Prune, Grilled Carp, Grilled Trout (rainbow), Jack-o-'lantern, Jerked Beef, Orange Juice, Pineapple Juice, Raw Oyster, Salt Cod, and all the River Sand/Sea Sand that isn't listed as 0/1 (except Brass Loach, which is rank 1).  I also just updated Marmot Steak and Sweet Cream earlier today.

Maple Sugar I think I listed, I'll recheck the rank soon. But it does require alchemy as a secondary craft. So if alchemy is low, it will make it harder.

If you want to find the correct ranks of the recipes, it's easy to do. See this thread.

The goal is, to get the actual in game ranks assigned to the recipe, then let the users figure out how far above/below they should be before first attempting.  Since there are so many variables, a rank 20 Cook is not equal to another rank 20 Cook.  Even if they have all the same gear/stats, the randomness could cause one to do a recipe very easily, and the other to fail horribly.

 

Edit 10-26-2010: Just checked Landtrap Salad, it's rank 19.

Edited by user Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:36:56 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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