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bluetail
#21 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2011 6:44:12 PM(UTC)
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So does the tree matter or are the sweet spots the same regardless of tree? And what's the difference between the grade of tree?
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:29:02 AM(UTC)
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Hi Bluetail and welcome to the site.

The sweet spot of an item will always be the same regardless of tree or grade. I a tree has the item on the list it will have the sweet spot listed on this site.

The grade of the tree is just a way to tell how difficult it is to gather from. Grade 1 will be the tree you get most attempts at and when striking an item your remaining stamina will be depleted the least. Grade 5 is currently the highest grade and here you will only get a few attempts. Once you get higher rank you will get more and more attempts and less and less stamina will be used when hitting something.

The higher the grade the more skill points so make sure you move to the next grade once you can log there comfortably. To locate the different grades I suggest you use the maps on this site. Here you can sort the resource points and get the information on what can be gathered.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:59:48 PM(UTC)
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Hi Bluetail and welcome to the site.

The sweet spot of an item will always be the same regardless of tree or grade. I a tree has the item on the list it will have the sweet spot listed on this site.

The grade of the tree is just a way to tell how difficult it is to gather from. Grade 1 will be the tree you get most attempts at and when striking an item your remaining stamina will be depleted the least. Grade 5 is currently the highest grade and here you will only get a few attempts. Once you get higher rank you will get more and more attempts and less and less stamina will be used when hitting something.

The higher the grade the more skill points so make sure you move to the next grade once you can log there comfortably. To locate the different grades I suggest you use the maps on this site. Here you can sort the resource points and get the information on what can be gathered.


Yea I saw the maps, they are great. So the system works that each tree can contain any item, or certain trees/locations have certain items. Say one tree can give maple logs and one willow logs and if you want logs, you should choose those sweet spots?

Or is it more like what a tree can give is randomized each spawn so to say.


In a better example, if I want maple logs should I just run around logging every tree at -2.




I guess I'm just too used to the whole low rank stuff is copper, and high rank stuff gives gold style system.


And a contribution: http://www.ffxivcore.com...-botanist-overlay-guide/

Doing this makes logging really easy. I chop middle, if no hit then top, if closer its second from top, if farther then i chop 1 lower then middle, which has to be a hit or "closer, in which case I chop bottom. Gives you a guaranteed hit by third try or sooner, with exception of if it's on the bottom.

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#24 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:50:56 PM(UTC)
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You can only get certain items from certain trees. Same would be with fishing or mining. Trees for maple, trees for willow, etc, etc.

Best way to see this is go to the maps and logs here via the link at the top and play around with the filters and areas. Then click on a node and off to the right it will show you what you can obtain from that particular tree.

Some random items can be found on multiple trees whether mahogany or willow for example but the branches and logs are tied to certain trees/nodes. So no -2 ..while it is the sweet spot.. will not get your maple logs at any tree.

Using the maps and logs resource on here you can also specify for example: maple logs and it will show you where those trees are for the area you have selected.

Each item though has it's own sweet spot.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:13:43 PM(UTC)
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You can only get certain items from certain trees. Same would be with fishing or mining. Trees for maple, trees for willow, etc, etc.

Best way to see this is go to the maps and logs here via the link at the top and play around with the filters and areas. Then click on a node and off to the right it will show you what you can obtain from that particular tree.

Some random items can be found on multiple trees whether mahogany or willow for example but the branches and logs are tied to certain trees/nodes. So no -2 ..while it is the sweet spot.. will not get your maple logs at any tree.

Using the maps and logs resource on here you can also specify for example: maple logs and it will show you where those trees are for the area you have selected.

Each item though has it's own sweet spot.


Yea I figured this out just now and went to post it. I did the same 3 trees that were maple walnut and chestnut. So basically you kit a tree and you get X branch, aim at that sweet spot for the log (if that's what you want) similar if you get maple sap, a grinadian chestnut/walnut you know to adjust because you have a maple/walnut/chestnut tree.

Also looks like crow feathers are linked with walnut and cock feathers with chestnut, can anyone confirm or refute this?

Either way the "sweet spots" should definitely be divided up by tree and not all clumped together, that way people know if they kit a cock feather they have a chestnut tree.


Finally, it seems like it's much easier for me at rank 13 to get maple logs then chestnut or walnut, so is it just harder to get certain lumbers despite being the same rank trees or do you just need to be a higher rank to increase your chance.would a higher rank on a lower rank tree increase the chance to get the harder logs, or just make it easier to get to the point of getting an item. Did any of that make sense?

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:08:13 PM(UTC)
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Couldn't tell you what items are linked with what. I just use the maps on this site which show me where certain trees or items are that I need and their sweetspots. So if I need crow feathers I just look it up and know where the nodes are and try for them. The sweet spots don't guarantee that item every time though.

It's pretty much random if you get what you are trying for even with the sweet spots but they do help.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:36:58 PM(UTC)
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Couldn't tell you what items are linked with what. I just use the maps on this site which show me where certain trees or items are that I need and their sweetspots. So if I need crow feathers I just look it up and know where the nodes are and try for them. The sweet spots don't guarantee that item every time though.

It's pretty much random if you get what you are trying for even with the sweet spots but they do help.


Yea they definitely help.

As for my question as to if it's easier or harder to obtain certain logs. It looks like it was bugged out or something while I was logging. The maple tree kept giving me logs easy, but the chestnut and walnut I didn't get any for half an hour. I took a break and came back and they started giving up logs. So maybe they were tapped out or something at the time. /shrug

It still seems like it's a little easier to get maple though.
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#28 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 6:42:47 AM(UTC)
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As for my question as to if it's easier or harder to obtain certain logs. It looks like it was bugged out or something while I was logging. The maple tree kept giving me logs easy, but the chestnut and walnut I didn't get any for half an hour. I took a break and came back and they started giving up logs. So maybe they were tapped out or something at the time. /shrug

It still seems like it's a little easier to get maple though.


There is a difference between how easy the different items are to gather. The higher the rank of the item the more stamina will be used when you try to obtain it.

I am not sure if rank also affect how often they are available to you but it sure seems like you get Ash logs a lot more often than Walnut.

Also remember that the higher stats you have the more attempts you will have and the more items you will get.
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#29 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:23:55 PM(UTC)
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When you say Sweet Spot, it sounds like you are referring to the bar and which notch. What about the Swing Meter? I am finding that the target for the swing meter is also in the same spot, every time, if I am on the sweet spot (and if I am not).

For example, I am in Horizon doing Grade 3 nodes. The sweet spot for Elm Logs is 0 but the swing meter is also what I would call 0 (middle of the arc). Hitting the middle of the arc yields me Elm Logs every time. Most of the time it's on the first swing, sometimes it gives the "almost" message and I have to hit the exact same spot for the yield. Kukuru Beans (I don't know the sweet spot on the bar) I find is hit near the very top of the arc on Grade 3 nodes near Horizon.

Do you guys also consider the arc with the sweet spot? Am I just getting lucky or did this change with 1.19?
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#30 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 2:06:03 AM(UTC)
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We are referring to the bar and notch. At the moment the swing meter is not implemented in the database. It should be said that the swing meter is not as consistent as it depends on your own stats whether or not this will be consistent. If your stats are too low you will not be able to use this information.

That being said I think it should be implemented, I have just not gotten around to it yet.
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#31 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 2:06:38 AM(UTC)
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