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Sinvergil
#1 Posted : Friday, December 31, 2010 10:14:29 AM(UTC)
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- Hey everyone! Its been a while since I've played the game but ever since patch 1.20 came out I've been busy burning through all my logs on carpenter which ultimately would also mean that its time to take up my hatchet again and start chopping trees! Every zone has changed quite a bit in regards to what you can obtain in them when this guide was first created.

Some new changes to my guide will include me removing all 'logging maps' for each zone as it appears that each area now only holds one specific type of tree (thank goodness). I also have added an 'aim' to each loggable item which will indicated exactly where to strike when you have picked the proper notch for your item (picture for this was taken from Mooglebox Gathering Tool)


Things yet to update in this guide are:

- Update 'Master List' and remove all items which cannot be obtained anymore


Stay tuned!!!




This guide will tell you everything you need to know about Botany, I hope you all enjoy this guide and find it as useful as my linkshell does. The guide now conformed to the notching notation that everyone is used to ^_^.

>>> Noctis Leonhart of Trabia <<<

Intro to the Guide and its Format
A word to my fellow viewers and LS mates:
I constructed this guide just to give people a general idea of where to locate items through botany without any sort of clue of what can be found. This guide shows locations of certain trees / harvest points that yield certain items and is by no means 100% accurate but pretty close to it :P.
For many of the maps I circled “zones” of where I have found certain items or where there will be a higher percent chance of finding certain items. As for the logging maps, I used letters to represent which tree is found at a certain node. The images themselves have a legend of what the letters stand for as well as here on the master legend:


Notching
I refer to "notching" very often in this guide so its important we understand what it is that I am saying. Notching refers to the "target phase" that happens right before you begin to actually log. There are 11 spots that you can "aim" your hatchet on the tree - different notching spots can give greater chances in attaining certain items. For example, using Walnut Log, it's notch is at -3. This means you must click down three times before clicking enter and beginning to harvest from the tree. You will know when you have found the ideal notching spot when you get the message "You sense "X" right where you are logging."



Aiming
This idea I started to noticing this when I returned to the game and decided to begin cataloging my finds (Mooglebox uses this and I used the picture from here to input into my guide:Mooglebox Gathering Tool). After you have picked the appropriate notch, you will then enter the 'Hot & Cold Mini-Game' where you must try to locate the item. Every item has a specific spot where it can be found during this mini-game I've divided the places you can aim into 5 areas. For example, Sun Lemons have an aim of (3) which means that you must make sure the cursor is exactly halfway when pressing enter, this will almost fully ensure you get take down Sun Lemons on the first swing.



Botany Nodes
There are two types of nodes that a botanist can gather from, logging nodes and harvesting nodes.
Each node also has a difficulty level known as a "Grade" or "Gr" for short. The higher the level of difficulty, the less you can gather from said node (depending on your level and Output stat).



Hot & Cold Mini-Game
Every logging spot will require you to play a Hot & Cold mini-game after you have chosen where you would like to aim your hatchet. In order to obtain the material, you must successfully hit the correct hit zone. After each attempt, your "Remainder" bar will gradually decrease where if it totally is emptied out before you find the right hit zone, you will fail the gathering attempt. With every swing you will receive a message indicating how close you are to finding the item:

"You feel nothing promising." If you get this message, this means you are very far away from the right hit zone.
"You are getting close to the mark." Just like the message says, this means you are getting closer to the right hit zone, keep aiming in the same direction.
"You are close to something but cannot extract it yet." This message basically means you are almost directly on the hit zone, if you try to aim again at the exact same spot, you will obtain the material.



Botanist Stats
From my findings both online and from some testing that I did myself, here are some explanations I've found for the BOT stats:

Gathering: This stat effects how fast your remainder bar is depleted. The remainder bar goes down faster when you are attempting to obtain an item.

Output: This stat effects how many attempts you can get at a Logging node or Harvesting node. The higher this stat is, the more you can gather from a node. Here's a small finding I recorded for Grade 4 nodes at rank 25 BOT:
- 65 or higher Output for x4 attempts at a logging node
- 66 or higher Output for x4 attempts at a harvesting node
One other interesting thing that I've found out regarding the number of times you're able to gather at a node is that Output isn't the only stat effecting this so I believe Rank may also play a smaller role in this.

Perception: This stat increases a player's chance to find higher-quality items and increases the width of your stroke.

Strength: I haven't done any sort of testing regarding this stat at all so I am not sure on how it effects BOT. My current guess is that it might have something to do with the quality of your yields? Other sources suggest this stat will allow you to 1 shot items instead of having to swing twice or more (currently testing this when I attain level 43 and stack on STR gear).

Intelligence: This stat effects the yield of your gathering attempts, the more INT, the more items you can get from a single swing.


HINT: Harvesting points do not have a resupply timer (although I think if you were to log for a couple of hours and then return to the same spot twice in a row that it would be fully resupplied). A very useful trick for harvesting exactly what you want from a certain harvesting point is to fully exhaust the supply first and in order to have it resupply, you must go and exhaust TWO more supplies from somewhere else (this can be two logging supplies, two harvest supplies, or even a log and a harvest supply). After you have done this you can return to the same harvesting spot that you would like to spam and it will be fully resupplied for you.

HINT: Just like harvesting points, logging points also resupply the same way where 2 supplies must first be exhausted before you can return to the same tree. The only time this doesn't work is if the sparkle on the tree fades after getting the message "the tree has been exhausted", this means that the tree won't appear again until it respawns (not sure how long this is, could be a few hours or until other trees have become fully exhausted).

RANK 32+ SPEED LEVELING TIP
Speed Leveling Quick Access Map





Master Items List


Botany GR1 & GR2 Section

Botany In Thanalan GR1&2



Botany In La Noscea GR1&2



Botany In the Black Shroud GR1&2



Botany GR3 Section

Botany In Thanalan GR3



Botany In La Noscea GR3



Botany In The Black Shroud GR3



Botany GR4 Section

Botany In Thanalan GR4



Botany In La Noscea GR4



Botany In The Black Shroud GR4



Botany In Coerthas GR4



Botany GR5 Section

Botany In Thanalan GR5



Botany In La Noscea GR5



Botany In The Black Shroud GR5



Botany In Coerthas GR5

Edited by user Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:01:05 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Update 5.0

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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:30:06 AM(UTC)
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This is fantastic. Great job. :)
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#3 Posted : Sunday, January 02, 2011 3:32:50 AM(UTC)
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Very nice! TY!
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#4 Posted : Monday, January 03, 2011 12:16:06 AM(UTC)
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Thank you, thank you ^^. Glad you all like it, i'll be adding a grade 5 sections soon enough.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:41:36 AM(UTC)
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Nice Guide. Thanks for sharing.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:43:21 AM(UTC)
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This is fantastic. With your permission, I will add your findings to our maps. I am beginning to populate Nophica's Wells and would like to use your information to do that.

Rup
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:53:27 PM(UTC)
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Rupskul wrote:
This is fantastic. With your permission, I will add your findings to our maps. I am beginning to populate Nophica's Wells and would like to use your information to do that.

Rup


That would be great, makes me happy to know that my information is useful. I look forward to seeing the info posted up =). I been taking a bit of a break from FFXIV due to school but eventually I'll add a Grade 5 section too ^^
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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:12:21 AM(UTC)
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I am going to add color codes to the maps and add to the classification of the nodes. I will start with grade 2 the black shroud.

Edited by user Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:21:22 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:41:17 AM(UTC)
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big thumbs up. while finding this all out adventuring around and logging for hours myself your nicely compiled findings are an awesome reference ;)
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#10 Posted : Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:57:20 PM(UTC)
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phanraven wrote:
big thumbs up. while finding this all out adventuring around and logging for hours myself your nicely compiled findings are an awesome reference ;)


Thank you :), it definitely is nice knowing what kind of items to expect in a certain zone and then going out to get the ones you need.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:50:40 AM(UTC)
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Guide has been updated with a Grade 5 section. There is still a lot to do on this part since I am still a few ranks shy from Arbor Call V so gathering data in these areas is still a bit slow. Grade 4 maps have all be reuploaded with a ton of newly marked trees.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:27:05 AM(UTC)
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Hi, State Alchemist here. Was wanting to double check with you Sinvergil to make sure you didn't mind me linking to your Botany Guide from my Carpentry guide on ffxiv.zam.com

Please let me know, as my guide is nearing completion, and the information you have provided is excellent and insightful. I will be happy to mention you in my guide as a contributor as well.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:34:42 AM(UTC)
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State Alchemist wrote:
Hi, State Alchemist here. Was wanting to double check with you Sinvergil to make sure you didn't mind me linking to your Botany Guide from my Carpentry guide on ffxiv.zam.com

Please let me know, as my guide is nearing completion, and the information you have provided is excellent and insightful. I will be happy to mention you in my guide as a contributor as well.



You may definitely link it to there :), makes me happy to know that it'll help out with your guide! I hope it helps :) and goodluck with your guide as well!
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#14 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:13:49 PM(UTC)
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I just realized that at one point in time you had the guide posted on ZAM in the forums. I don't know if you ever considered doing so, but if ou are interested in including your guide in the ZAM wikibase as well, I would be more than happy to help construct the guide as far as formatting goes. If you look at my guides on ZAM I have done all the work (formatting, picture placement, tables, etc...). Figured you might want to spread the basic guide around. Let me know if your interested either here or PM me on ZAM (StateAlchemist2)
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This is the best guide I have found anywhere. Thank you very very much for the help :)
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:24:53 PM(UTC)
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Chenoah wrote:
This is the best guide I have found anywhere. Thank you very very much for the help :)


Thanks a bunch! Although the sad part is that this guide is very very nice up until like Patch 1.18 ;(. It is now extremely outdated and I probably won't have enough time to go through all the zones for quite some time. On the other hand the harvesting locations and notching spots should all be 100% so that part is still okay :). I'll eventually do a mega updated again some day soon!!!
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#17 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:55 PM(UTC)
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Sinvergil wrote:
Chenoah wrote:
This is the best guide I have found anywhere. Thank you very very much for the help :)


Thanks a bunch! Although the sad part is that this guide is very very nice up until like Patch 1.18 ;(. It is now extremely outdated and I probably won't have enough time to go through all the zones for quite some time. On the other hand the harvesting locations and notching spots should all be 100% so that part is still okay :). I'll eventually do a mega updated again some day soon!!!


Mega update here now :P
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 1:39:28 AM(UTC)
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Post is now Sticky... should have been done earlier... but now it's done :D
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#19 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 8:16:10 AM(UTC)
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Nice update and thank you. Only thing I saw was some of the gear is outdated listed under the speed lvling section.. I think that's where it was

If you need an updated list on gear check the link below. Some names still need to be changed but they go to the appropriate updated items in Kida's database.

http://www.disciplesofth...m.aspx?g=posts&t=284

Yeah if you can't do anymore leves for DoL or are just tired then obviously you have to grind and Iron Lake is great for that with the nodes so close together.

Obviously you have to cycle the nodes and xp takes a huge hit eventually after 40 or maybe at 40..don't remember.

You can also get xp scrolls with GC seals.. not a huge bonus but everything helps if you want to do that. Also, a lot of us are having to go back and grind anyways for achievements and getting no xp for it so Iron Lake for G5 really comes in handy for Botany.

All of your nodes seem correct though from what I've seen comparing to our map logs here but a choc is advisable.

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