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Very new at all gathering, and was wondering if someone can give me some help here for leveling mining and botany r6 -> r20+ in uldah region.

1) For now I am just trying to level fast do not care about what items I get. Should I just find the closest possible 3 nodes and keep doing them over and over?

2) What rank do you move to the next grade for best SP gain? Like what rank do I start grade2 and grade 3

3) kinda similar as 2, but what rank do I start doing say a r20 leve?

Thanks for any answers or any additional help on lvling these fairly quick up to 20ish.

I know you said you don't care about what items you get, but especially when it comes to botany, this is a great gathering class to skill and make money starting from R1.

You just have to keep an eye on your economy. Check the market wards here and there and learn the basics of gathering and you can make some decent money right from the start.

Grade 1 trees in the black shroud an grade 2 trees in la noscea will yield you willow logs. Which sell for 3k on Lindblum, since carpenters need them for easy skill ups on Willow Masks.

Grade 3 trees in the black shroud or la noscea will start to yield you oak logs. Which sell for around 4k a log on Londblum. Since carpenters need them for easy skill ups on Oak Masks.

Grade 4 trees in Coerthas and La Noscea will start to yield you Yew Logs. Which sell for 6k on Lindblum. Since Carpenters need them for easy skill ups on Yew Masks. Grade 4 trees in The Black Shroud and La Noscea will yield Walnut Logs, which sell for around 8k on Lindblum, since Carpenters need them for easy skill ups on Walnut Masks. Grade 4 trees in The Black Shroud and La Noscea also still yield Oak Logs.

Grae 5 trees in Coearthas will yield you Oak Logs an Yew Logs. In La Noscea you'll get Oak Logs.

You could find some Oak Trees in Thanalan too, but they're pretty rare here, compared to other areas.

Next point is, when to start moving to the next area.

You'll get your skill to sense trees close to you at 8, 18, 28 and 38. This could be taken as an criteria when to move to the next area. Some people already move to the next spots at lower levels.

You've to remember that, as lower your Rank is, the less trys you've on a higher spots. This can be a bit adjusted if you get yourself a gear with alot of Output.

If you don't care about alot of running, and the fact, that you don't have a skill to sense near trees, then you can already move even if you're a bit to low for the choosen area.

I prefer to stay in the areas best for my rank. Means: 1-8 grade 1 trees. 8-18 grade 2 trees. 18-28 grade 3 trees. 28-38 grade 4 trees and 38-50 grade 5 trees.

You've alot of trys on one tree. You don't have to run that much. You get decent SP and, as for botany, decent money.

I only started skilling mining myself recently. So i can't say much about that. But what i can say is: Iron Ore sells for 3k a piece on my Server (Lindblum). So there should be some money in there too. You just have to check your market! =)

1) First thing to do would be to raise your gathering skill with gear.
But keep in mind that after you gained a certain amount of sp (or it might be time ) you will hardly be able to mine/log successfully since you hit a wall. this happens to crafting classes too (items get really hard to synth). if you then wait about 2 hours you will get better results again. This currently happnes to me after 20k SP @ rank38

2) small triangles mean less running that is right. sometimes using an offhand-node greatly reduces the size of such a triangle. the nodes drop eventually that is right and you can not prevent them to. only thing to do is enjoy having the nodes close together while it lasts ;) in botany you get the skill Green Mind which reduces the depletion rate of a location. (Stone Resolve as miner i think). this will help maintaining a node or getting rid of one faster a little.

Edited by user Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:02:13 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Fatigue is seperate.

Best place imo for grade 4, both mining and botany, when you are trying to geto prior to 28, would be Humblehearth.

I personally did all grade 4 areas prior to 28 for Botany, but mining is more difficult. The way the Black Shroud areas are layed out, they are almost always the easiest to find nodes in.
Humblehearth is not as easy as Treespeak, but is still easiest.