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I think we need to separate this discussion. We need to talk about leveling and about farming.

For farming -
Truvy has pointed out that for farming she doesn't have an issue. So for farming, I would say that this is a great patch. It makes it more predictable as to where you will be able to gather your item.

For Leveling -
Truvy and tragicnate have shown that gathering below you actual grade, for Truvy r50 fisher this is grade 5 and for tragicnate rank 39 botanist this is rank 4. So for this grade/Rank there isn't a point in leveling. you are essentially trading consistent item location for sp.

Now from what truvy has shown, and stealing her stats from lodestone, 84 is at this point the DEX needs to be at for her to get the benefit from the new adjustment. So we can assume (hopefully, as this wouldn't make practical sense otherwise) that this is the max you will need and should decrease with the grade.

From testing I have done, at r32, with a str above 84 and I do not get to benefit from this update. and so far, it has made it harder to gather. I have the best gathering gear that is at my level or below. I had the transition to the better hatchet this level as well. So as far as these stats go I am not poorly equipped. So logically i do not meet the rank requirement, So i need more sp to meet the rank requirement. The implications of this is that since i do not meet the rank requirement I need to use the gathering technique outlined on many sites. So at a maximum, I need 5 gathering attempts to get my item: 3 to find and 2 to gather. Depending on what I am gathering I only get a maximum of 2-4. So due to this I miss a fail and about 35% of my gathering attempts. Before the patch I would fail maybe 3-5%(mining and logging, fishing probably 10%). This has just become a large compounding problem. I cannot get as much sp, so cannot reach the rank requirement to take advantage of this. And the level of enjoyment has decrease proportionally to the increase in frustration!

I did a leve run, 2 for each DoL class, it used to take about 45 min to an hour to complete my leves. It took 2.5 hours. The main issues were that I could not gather the required items. Didn't have enough remainder, would always break on the last hit. Fishing was the worst. I got timed out of the gather 3 items as I missed the last fish 10 times. Also I missed a large number of my attempts at the 3 gathering points.

I completely understand giving us a system where we can easily target what we want for farming, but not at the expense of slowing down the leveling for the slowest leveling classes already! If they are going to make it so that it is random for leveling, at lest make it so that a well equipped gatherer can have enough attempts to still gather the item.

Quilick what kind of sp/hr are you expecting. The new system did hit my skill up potential but I still can get 10-15k a hour farming a grade up. I use to be able to get 20k hr easily depending on a good route. I also do find it annoying that it seems the appropriate rank is higher than the rank you get the scanning ability. Even without the appropriate rank I find that most the time the items are still are the proper strike location. I would also like to point out that when you have proper rank and 0 in the attribute required the strike point is where it should be 90% of the time.

Update: I got my botanist up to level 33 and found that the items were in a consistent swing location. I tested this on oak and walnut logs in humble. My current str is 99. i will try to decrease it to see if there is a threshold.

What I noticed:
Walnut Logs - Upper middle swing
Walnut Branches - Upper middle
Oak log &branches and Iron Acorn - Lower middle.

I tried fishing again. my lusck wasn't as bad as it was before. I got about 75% catches on my hooked fish. I did notice that i was pulling up less multiple for the fish though.

As far as in response to "how" do you know what the dex requirement is, (or any stat for that matter), its all about guess work. You have to got at it when tracking as "Can i achieve 100% results with my current stats?", and if so, reduce those stats until you no longer achieve 100% results. This gets difficult due to randomizers, other factors, etc but one can usually get a 'good' idea/range for it.

Onto the reduction in multiples for higher rank items. I believe that the 'other' stat for each gathering class is responsible for it. They made no mention of this in thier patch release but i have a feeling its affected. For fishing that would be PIE. Once I've got a few of these crafts out of the way, i'll look to see if i can boost PIE and start getting multiples of my Pike i've been after. If so, then reason dictates it does control it. As i've now fished over 900 sucessful reel in since patch targeting Pike and not a single multiple.

Yeah there is certainly some sort of relationship with it all. My hunch is that it is now Item_Rank vs Secondary_stat for 'helping' determing the chance to get multiples.

I havent played with adjusting my stats yet, but Pre-patch i could reel in anywhere from 1-3 Pike in a sucessful jig, now it is 'always' 1. Not most of the time, but always...where as the crimsons and carp still come in multiples.

I can't really do much more in maxing my gear (and as it is, Gathering and Perception don't affect the quantity.)...so this leaves me to believe its got to be stat related.

It could also simply be 'bad luck'...although over 1000 reel-ins in those waters since the patch and still not a multiple pike is odd. After double checking the ranks of the fish, Pike are listed at R43 and Carp at R46 (these are old ranks taken from launch and I don't know if they are still accurate or not). I have gotten multiples of Carp to come in, not as oftan as before, but it has happened.

Be nice if the Dev's come out and just clarify some of it all.

Well I have recently picked up fishing and here are my experiences thus far. I tried fishing grade 4 at R15 but the wait time where unbearable so I moved to grade 3. At first it was impossible but this was due to me using bait that was higher rank than me. Once I got the correct lure I found fishing pretty easy at R15 at grade 3. I averaged 15k sp hr and with some lucky sweat activations I got as high as 8.5k in 30 minutes. I am interested to see if the grind get more difficult as I progress through the grades.

there has ALWAYS been a limit on the number of resources you can get in a given time frame before you hit fatigue. The bummer is we finally figure out (pretty close) what that was and the dev's just come out and say it. Good to know though at least.

For fishing, the only big change to the G10 trick i could think wouldn't work is the now increased rate of lure loss. Again, fishing i leveled up in 100% fatigue (the "You lost what felt like a <fish>") message getting 1/2 the SP you normally would from a sucessful reel in.

I am pretty confident that the stat you need is based on the item you are gathering not the grade in which you are at. Seems to me the rank requirement is based on grade then stat requirement is based on the rank of the item. What lead me to this conclusion was black sole. I had inconsistent jig point but the second I bumped my dex to 111 it instantly made the jig point 100% in the middle. I did not have a reassign so I wasn't able to figure out the minimum requirement for black sole.