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I have a crafting question. What is the general rule of thumb as to when you should use your primary or secondary tool?

Is it crystal based or just based on what item you are making? I read that the secondary tool is geared towards magic but in what sense if that's correct.

I think it would help me with certain synths I have failed on even with a good balance of gear between craftsmanship and magic crafts and control and food and support.

Thank you

I've been out drinking so I'll probably type a lot lol.

what determines if a synth is centered around magical craftsmanship?

I've read where certain items aren't mage oriented and it has to do with the crystal you use.. or am I just missing something really obvious here.

that's what I'm trying to understand. What constitutes the usage of your offhand tool.

Has to be something because I tried using my offhand today for something to me would of been obvious mainhand and I had great results. Another I used offhand for something that was mage oriented and had horrible results.

I switched to main and boom.. perfection.

Also, I read on another site how some crystals are deemed magic related and some are deemed land based so mainhand tool oriented.

All elements are used in magic so not understanding the logic there. I know earth=land.. but still.

To me all this seems really random and no reason or rhyme to it.. and I just don't accept that in a game where developers always have a purpose behind every thing. There is a degree of luck and random.. even back in ffxi.. but behind the scenes SE had a reason for everything so I guess I'm trying to find that.

For leves I want to use the tool for the item that will help me to complete the leve.. if it makes a diff what tool you use.

For outside of leves I want the tool that will help me HQ that item or I want the tool that will help me complete the synth.

I kinda wish we didn't have offhand tools. Seems pointless. Also, the abilities for crafting are so random if they work. I'd just like to see more consistency behind everything.

I'm just one of those people that like to know.. ok you need to use this for that.. and this tool for this synth.. no matter what the end results are. Instead of rock, paper, scissors.. let's use offhand tool for the heck of it. lol.

Yeah I bought some control food earlier today as it's the stat I'm lacking in and see how that works out. Thanks Drar.

thank you Lola and glad to see you back. Post up a intro post in that introductions thread when you get the chance if you want^^

edit: I've asked someone from another site to post up their crafting guide which lends more credibility to any crafting discussion than what I've posted below. He did post it so check in the crafting general discussion forum. Should be newest thread.


My take on everything since I came back is Now: Stats on gear matter and thus gear makes the biggest difference in fighting or crafting or gathering along with your food (which is a pain in itself). I put my points into Vit and Mnd for hp and mp and then add in what is left over for other stats for crafting/gathering classes.

From the lodestone notes the Devs released eventually the physical lvl will be abolished. Your personal stats like str, dex, pie, etc when you rank up a physical level will be automated into your jobs like they were in FFXI. I can provide the link for this but it was that roadmap post they made while back this year and it's pretty much all holding true.

I'm not sure how it's all going to work.. i.e. like merits in FFXI or just have points to put into whatever category you want. How points and the physical lvl system being abolished will work I do not know.

Simplification and some automation is where we are headed in some aspects. Plus, in order for food to give you the highest possible affect when you use it.. you have to be within so many lvls of the priority stat or element. It just doesn't work I think and that all goes back into the point system issues.

Automate stats when you lvl up for each job, allow some kind of merit or self attributed point system and make gear and food both relevant and irrelevant at the same time.. by that I mean make it important stats wise but not be a primary pain in the arse to deal with (Like be within so many point lvls to get the Super Special FF14 you orgasm eating this food comment and effect) ..

..and more about eating food that is best for lvls 30-40, 40-50, etc. not -/+ 4 lvls of str or wind. I'm not going to lower stats to get best food effect.. retarded. Right now I would have to gimp my dex a lot to get the best effect from a certain food for one of my jobs and it's the best food for my lvls.. supposedly. I'm like.. HUH?

Edited by user Friday, August 05, 2011 7:24:48 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Sadly there is no hard and fast rule for what synth needs what in terms of mag craft vs craft. Typically what determines what tool i use for a given synth is based on what tool produces the hq. Generally offhand tools produce parts but not always. Armor-smithing is one such craft where depending on the specific recipe some parts are mh hq and some are oh.

Usually when i start a batch of parts ill test out both and see if i can tell any sort of difference, however with the heavy RNG from synth to synth sometimes it's not very conclusive.