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I did logging and harvesting outside of Ul'Dah for most of a day and this is what I noticed in the rank 2 nodes where I spent most of my time:

There are different tree models and each model seems to have a different loot set:

I got mostly feathers and such from the large cactus trees while I got assorted wood from the thick tall trees and the skinny gangly trees - I didn't pay enough attention to each if each of the 'tree' types gave different wood.  I believe the fruits that I obtained differed between cactus-type and tree-type as well.

Which node I harvested mattered:

One node (the one next to the patch of water NW of the Camp Drybone Dodo leve) gave Sand-beige Dyers moss, Straw, some others.  I moved later to the ground-level area east of Camp Drybone around the little paths running between the higher up cliffs and I found another node that rewarded Dragon Peppers as the "rare" item (I think that's what it was called) but saw no Moss here.  I didn't notice anything special about a 3rd node I harvested and I don't think I received either of those items from it (I don't know if I received anything that stuck out in my mind as being different from that node).

Speculation:

It might not have been tree model but tree-node that mattered.  The nodes for harvesting all look about the same to me.  So far what I got was always closely aligned with which tree model it was or which harvesting area it was.

I can't think of a better way to figure out how to get what you want then to spend a lot of time working an area over and keeping track of exactly what drops from what.  I was hunting for Lead-grey Scale Bugs and I was never able to find them .  I don't know if I couldn't find them because I was at the wrong nodes or because I was doing the wrong DoL job.

Edited by user Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:11:52 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I've been doing a lot of research on Botany and a lot of players are reporting that the height of the notch affects the type of items they get. Higher up on the scale gives more misc/cooking type items, while lower down gives more logs. Most of you probably already know this though.

Once we figure out the node and model types, my guess for logging specific items would be to combine using the correct notch at the correct node or model. I haven't found anywhere to look up locations, nodes, etc for specific items yet though.

The resources that a node give are definitely static. I've tracked my mining and harvesting attempts and probably have close to 1000 attempts chartered, if not that, more. I've learned quite a bit about where resources are and how they're assituated. Nodes for Quarrying and Harvesting are all static, they're always guranteed to be up, they never dissipate like a Mining or Logging node. They also each have a unique table of 5 resources ranging from 2 common, 2 uncommon and 1 rare material. If you find a Quarry or Harvest point, go ahead and note it's quadrant and what you get from it. You'll soon see it has 5 different resources and they're always the same 5. I've also come to the conclusion that nodes don't have a refresh timer, unless you log out for a considerable time ( 24 hours maybe? ) What I mean by refresh time is that once you have exhausted your attempts on it, it will not just refresh so you can gather from the node again, unless like I said, you're logged for a considerable amount of time. The way I've found to refresh a node is to hit 2 other unique nodes and come back to the one you were at previously and it will be refreshed for use again. So, technically you could juggle 3 nodes and constantly go from 1, to 2 then 3 and go back to node 1 and can harvest it again. Although there is one caveat, the rule of 3 nodes for refreshing only seems to work for Mining and Logging nodes. It seems if you are doing Quarrying or Harvesting, it takes 4 nodes. I could be wrong on the 4 nodes though, I haven't tested that in awhile.

At any rate, regular Mining and Logging nodes are much like Quarry and Harvest points, they always have the same 5 resources on their table. The main difference though is that a Mining node or Logging node can be exhausted to the point that it is no longer harvestable by anyone until the location respawns. Furthermore, I've found that if you look at the map quadrants, each one will typically have the same 5 resources for Mining/Logging nodes within that quadrant. So to say, if you see a mining node in quadrant 20:19 and it has Alumen, Silex, Pyrite, Silver Ore and Silver Sand, it will always have those and any other Mining node within that quadrant will have the same 5 resources.

However, there is one catch I've bumped in to. In very rare occassions it appears that some quadrants can have 2 different sets of 5 resources for Mining nodes within the quadrant. So again, maybe in quadrant 20:19 you'll have a node with Alumen, Silex, Pyrite, Silver Ore and Silver Sand, then another mining node within 20:19 with Copper, Ice Rock, River Sand, Silex and Zync Ore. This is quite rare, but it is possible.

I have a pile of locations marked off that I track by quadrants, grade and general position of the node within the quadrant. I've also noted notches that I chose. I've found this info through quite a bit of observation and notation. If anyone would like to add to this info feel free to.

I hope my research on the subject proves useful.

Edited by user Monday, October 18, 2010 11:43:27 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I believe the notch decides what you are aiming for. A high notch aims for high quality items and a low one aims for low quality. I tried many -5 notches and got very very few high quality items and at 5 notches I got more high quality items. This also means that it will be harder when having a high notch. The amount of remainder is almost always the same but the rate at which it goes down is faster on high quality items, I usually have 3-4 chops on high quality items and 5+ on lower quality items.

Tests were made on Grade 3 trees in Western Thanalan from at 21-23.

Edited by user Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:28:59 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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