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From the lodestone:



http://forum.square-enix...4818?p=359233#post359233

Some big changes coming for gatherers it looks like, mining and botany in particular.

http://forum.square-enix...mp;viewfull=1#post359249

This link shows that each area will now only so many items you can obtain for each mining/quarrying or botany/harvesting node. (fishing looks relatively unchanged except for what you can obtain spearfishing) They're also making dyes universal across each crafting class and can all be obtained from secondary gathering professions. Here's the JP dev post concerning this:

http://forum.square-enix...eads/14967-Translations-(JP-to-English)?p=360436&viewfull=1#post360436

I noticed that there were no new areas added in this list so maybe they're only addressing the current items. Hopefully there'll be some good news tomorrow regarding Grade 6 nodes. :)

I guess once the patch goes live, a lot of data will need to be changed to reflect the coming changes for what can be gathered in each area.

Yeah that's pretty sad about the maps. A lot of time was put into it. I would say they still have some use from a graphical point of view, but that's probably not true because you can find your nodes with the abilities like Arbor Call. Maybe just leave them up with the updated area information for nostalgia sake :P

I was looking at the link provided with the list of all the gatherings and recipes and got somewhat confused.

There is a section called Updated Recipes. How is this supposed to be understood?

The list of woodworking recipes at the start of the thread has the following
Maple Lumbers (3)
- 3 Maple Logs
- 3 Wind shards

but the list of updated recipes (Search for "Updated Recipes") further down says:
Maple Lumber yield 4 using Maple Log has been changed to yield 1 using Maple Log

Does this mean that there also is a recipe that takes one Maple Log and creates one Maple Lumber?

I am confused!?!

Per Alchemy and Cul:
"Patch 1.19 recipe changes are for other than Alchemist and Culinarians.
For Alchemist and Culinarians we are have new recipe changes in later patch."

"Does this mean that there also is a recipe that takes one Maple Log and creates one Maple Lumber?"

I believe that's correct but I'm taking this from a rough translation. Sounds like different recipes to make different amounts of an item which if is the case I don't get.

Why not just do different hq results with 1 synth. Giving people everything they want in a simplified manner with "given" results seems boring to me. It is a mmorpg for godsakes.. don't make it too easy.

from SE: "Yes, for those that show (x3) you craft once and it will make 3."


Soo... from what I understand from the posts and links above is you will only get specific items in certain areas from all nodes for Botany and Mining only (fishing unaffected)? How is this going to be applied? South Shroud nodes drop certain items for all nodes, West Shroud drops certain items, etc?

I will say that it was annoying trying to farm a specific item even hitting the sweet spots and never getting them or it taking a long time. It took me hours to get some simplistic items for the guild for Botany on various runs. But I just don't like this whole way of thinking for synthing and DoL that you want this.. you do this and you get it 100%.

Knowing only a few items will drop in certain areas will help speed up the process. I don't see why the maps won't still be beneficial though. Just have to change the items for certain nodes which will be rather easy since only a few items will drop in certain areas. A huge shame though for Kida and all the people who helped at the very start to input everything.

My main reason for using the maps has always been to find the nodes for certain items. I don't use the node find abilities we get lol.. I'd rather know where they are exactly since we're on pc anyways and have it right there on my other monitor. So seems like the maps will be much simplified but still of great use... or am I missing the whole picture here. >.>

Edited by user Friday, September 30, 2011 4:59:53 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

well that clears that up.. nq and hq3 only. That makes me a lot happier than what I was thinking. The vendor and repair npcs in each camp is awesome as well. Homerun on that one SE. Sounds like you are correct Oro on the grade 5 for now but faster rate of growth to compensate. Other grades will come soon.. maybe later they'll nerf the growth once they do so I better get to it! lol.

more stuff not DoL oriented:

Basically HP/MP regain is the same as FFXI now except you don't have to kneel.

The following actions are now executable while in passive mode:
All magic spells
Actions which can be used on self or other party members


The following changes have been made to passive mode HP and MP recovery:
Players will not automatically recover HP and MP when incurring enmity.
HP and MP will automatically recover only while the player is stationary, regardless of whether or not he/she is engaged in battle. The amount of HP and MP recovered will increase based on the amount of time a player remains stationary.
The recovery amount will reset under the following conditions:
The player is attacked
The player moves or performs an action

Flare
Freeze
Tornado
Quake
Burst
Flood
Now affects a single target.
Recast time raised from 10 to 90 seconds.
These six actions share a recast timer.

5000 to ride the airship.

Edited by user Friday, September 30, 2011 12:32:23 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I have not been playing for almost 2 months because of my schedule, but I am planning on starting up next week again.

As I understand it patch 1.19 to patch 1.21 is going to be an entire gathering and synth overhaul, so items and recipes will be changing constantly over the next 3 patches (at least).

It is going to take a while to stabilize the gathering nodes and what they yield, and also all the synth recipes.

This could be a very testing time during the next few patches for disciples of the Hand and Land! Things will be constantly changing...