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#1 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2011 9:43:15 AM(UTC)
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So earlier I ran by a Kobold Prelate at Iron Lake and he started to aggro me but I ran far enough away and he stopped. Then the 2nd time I used Stealth IV and no aggro and I walked almost through him.

Thing is he was lvl 52 and according to the 1.19 notes it's lvl 50 and below. glitch or does it go up a few lvls beyond what they posted below? No way he wouldn't of aggroed me that close w/o it.

Stealth Abilities for Miner, Botantist and Fisher.

Stealth

Learned: Level 8
Conceal yourself and tread quietly, enabling you to avoid enemies. Reduces movement speed.
* Prevents detection by monsters level 20 and below.

Stealth II

Learned: Level 18
Conceal yourself and tread quietly, enabling you to avoid enemies. Reduces movement speed.
* Prevents detection by monsters level 30 and below.

Stealth III

Learned: Level 28
Conceal yourself and tread quietly, enabling you to avoid enemies. Reduces movement speed.
* Prevents detection by monsters level 40 and below.

Stealth IV

Learned: Level 38
Conceal yourself and tread quietly, enabling you to avoid enemies. Reduces movement speed.
* Prevents detection by monsters level 50 and below.

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#2 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2011 1:54:18 PM(UTC)
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Hmm not sure. They may have made an allowance for mobs that were a couple levels above 50. So far the only place I've used it was at the chest location for the Iron Lake leve near the Kobolds.

On second thought, wonder if they mean the whole level 50 range? If someone would be as bold to use Stealth IV in front of something over level 40 we'd know if that theory holds any substance.

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#3 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 10:40:40 AM(UTC)
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I circled around the same lvl 52 prelate like 3 times with Stealth 4 up and I finally got the message that he was aware of my presence in the chat log and then he smacked me a few times as I ran off until he went back.

So the detection seems to give a little or maybe my elf smelled bad and he got sick of it finally. Tongue

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#4 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:42:51 AM(UTC)
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So am I missing something here.. I'm replying to this older thread again because I am doing Logging Iron Lake and sometimes.. alot of the time.. there is a lvl 51-54 Kobold Prelate roaming close by or right on top of the nodes you have to do for Botany.

Stealth IV does not work on mobs over lvl 50 right? Today I ran into x2 54 Prelates more or less on top of x3 nodes. They were all over them back and forth and was unable to finish the leve.

Again.. unless I'm missing something here why in the hell are there lvl 54 mobs by leve nodes? Did they make it where they won't attack if you are doing the leve?

1. We shouldn't have to stop and fight mobs during leves
2. Not everyone has a high lvl job to do this much less x2 lvl 54 prelates.
3. I thought they removed high lvl mobs from leve areas.

I get we have Stealth abilities but that does not work on mobs over 50. Most of the time I have to train them away from the nodes while I take shots in the back but I live but it's a narrow area and doing that at regular foot speed for 2 mobs is just dumb.

I just wanna make sure I'm not missing something here. I reported this as a game bug cause to me it is if you can't finish a leve. I've been reduced to 1 leve so now I gotta head to another city and hope I don't have the same issue at those G5 areas.

edit: I found this in a older thread on Lodestone:

"Botany: completely safe at hala and treespeak, at iron lake sometimes there is a stray kobold by the "3 logging points" leve" - and like I had today it can be up to 3 lvl 54 prelates. So off to hala or treespeak.

here is the lodestone thread you can like the OP and others if this is an issue for you as well:

http://forum.square-enix...tree?p=495560#post495560

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#5 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 3:55:54 PM(UTC)
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Just here to confirm, Stealth IV does not work on monsters 51 and up, just like the ability says

I have done the Iron Lake leves many many times and rarely ever do I have this problem. If it happens, you just have to wait it out or kill it.

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#6 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:35:00 PM(UTC)
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Unless there's specific materials you're after in Iron Lake you may want to try one of the other areas. Obviously guild marks aren't a factor anymore, so it's just a matter of what items you want to get while doing leves, and what doesn't have mobs guarding gathering points obviously.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 8:36:24 PM(UTC)
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yeah I've done the other 2 areas and they just take longer to get to the nodes and they aren't true aetheryte camps. Iron Lake is just really easy to blow through leves and grind. Yeah I figured they would of moved by now but they've been there on my server for almost a week now and if you try to train them away they go back to their spot.

Problem with killing them is now there are 2 together and it's been like that before and a lot lately they just respawn so it makes no diff basically. They just need to move them or lower their lvls. All others are lvl 40 that are up on cliffs so just doesn't make any sense. Why move the anglers, etc and leave these.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 9:22:19 PM(UTC)
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Are these seriously a frequent problem for you? I've done Botany leves there at least 20 times, I've never had as much trouble as you're saying, and I've only been killed by them maybe a total of 3 times during leves.

I don't know if I'm lucky, you're unlucky, or both.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:45:28 PM(UTC)
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yeah it's a issue. when mobs over lvl 50 prevent you from finishing a leve. This happens every week.

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