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jayponry
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:22:54 AM(UTC)
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Hello, this forum has proven to be a big help so here goes another shot in the dark...

Has anyone ever been able to mine FINE SAND at any location? The alchemy npc doesnt sell fine sand anymore to convert into crystals and I have 100000s of crystals now just sitting there when i need shards.. was hoping that maybe you could mine them. I went to yg and saw all the mobs that supposedly drop fine sand and after two hours and like 4 different chigoe types never got a single one. So i fished for like 6 hours and got 200 saber sardines which I was told takes 2 sardines to make 1 fine sand and then realized that the recipe was incorrect it actually makes 1 sea sand which takes 6 sea sand to make 1 fine sand. so i wasted 200k worth of fish to make 16 fine sand.. There HAS to be an easier or secret way to get fine sand.. lemme know /lost lol

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:02:54 AM(UTC)
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Isn't this one of the items SE is trying to phase out of the game, and related recipes? it could or could not be true, but I think it is.
TownLobster
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:48:30 AM(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure you don't mine fine sand anywhere.

The best you can do is mine river or sea sand and then goldsmith it into fine sand.

If you convert fish into sea sand or river sand, it takes shards, and it takes some more shards to goldsmith the river/sea sand into fine sand, so you don't or barely gain when you crack crystals that way.

You can probably drop some money on fine sand from the market wards. It's in the mason's row under stone. Before it was gone, Jemimi at the Alchemists guild sold it for 358ea. Hmm and right now on my server you can get ~2 stacks of 99 for 1400ea, 2 for 1499ea, and 6 priced at 1500ea

unit price--------stack of 99-------cost per shard from cracking

358------------------35,442---------22.375

1400----------------138,600---------87.5

1500----------------148,500---------93.75

The 'cost per shard from cracking' column is just the cost of the sand, it doesn't include what you paid for the crystals. It assumes a yield of 16 shards from each of 99 crystals for 1584 shards total (i.e. no botches).

So unless you didn't pay anything for the crystals, on my server it's pretty close but cheaper to buy shards than sand. And in terms of time, you're way better off just buying shards.

I suspect that's what this is really all about, getting people to buy shards instead of create more, until 1.20 comes around at least.

Shard prices are very low these days, like 100ish on Mysidia. Sadly crystals are almost as cheap as shards, they cost just a few hundred more (300-600, which is what shards cost back around launch in late 2010)...demand for crystals is dropping now that you have to pay so much for fine sand. The super cheapness of crystals makes it very close cost wise but you have to crack them yourself.

Other than that, you can buy a fishing pole and some bait and go after the low level fish that convert into shards.

Or you can level some unused DoW/DoM for a while I guess.

I bought ten stacks of fine sand before they took it off the npc market...but now what do I do with it hmm...I could level up alchemist on it, or sell it...

There is supposed to be a bunch of stuff for alchemist in 1.2 but of course they haven't said what. I suspect this situation will be effected in some way...either fixed or made irrelevant or something. I think whatever I do with it, I should do it before then.

Edited by user Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:06:28 AM(UTC)  | Reason: fixed my little attempt at columns and added some stuff

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:37:02 AM(UTC)
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nice Town and thank you and welcome to the site.

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