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Kida
#1 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:44:22 AM(UTC)
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So as I stated in another post I wanted to get a Chocobo. I found that this could not be done as a DoL/DoH and this has been my only focus point so far in the game.

I had Gladiator leveled to 5 and Archer leveled to 12. I wanted to start a new class from level 1 and then take it to 22 to be granted access to Grand Companies and then get my big yellow bird so I could be more efficient when running around doing my gathering.

I chose marauder (gotta love those big axes) and started with the Weathered War Axe. I got to level 5 outside of Ul'dah (didn't take much time) and then started doing some leves at Black Brush to 7 and then some grinding to level 9. After that I did some grinding and leves at Drybone until I hit 15.

This has all been pretty straight forward and not taken too much time (5 - 6 hours maybe?) But I have a feeling that this will slow down pretty soon. I am not getting a lot of XP, appr. 95 - 105 per kill and it takes me a while to do those kills. I have tried to keep the gear as close to my level as possible.

Now I would like to ask what advice you would give to a level 15 marauder who wants to get to level 22. Should I just keep doing leves and grind and if yes... where should it be done. Can I move up to level 20 leves before level 20 (17-18ish?) or is this too difficult.

When I compare marauder to fishing I think this is soooo slow as I, when fishing, would be able to get maybe 150 - 200 exp (maybe more) with every catch and I could just stand in the same spot all the time. Now I am getting less xp per kill, it takes longer and I have to run around all the time.

I just want to add that I am enjoying playing marauder and even though it takes longer it is not really I problem. I just really want that chocobo.

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#2 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 8:49:01 AM(UTC)
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It seems nowadays, the best way to level:

PL > Party > Leves > Grind

If you know a higher level person that can help you fight mobs about 5 levels over you, that would go pretty quickly. You tag the mob then they come up and bash it, you get full xp.

Party is the next best way because in a group you'll be killing things pretty fast. Unfortunately, at least on my server, I don't see too many people shouting for parties at your level range. There is that new level 15 dungeon in La Noscea though, so maybe there would be some people willing to do that. There's a ton of mobs in there and I imagine if you got a good sized party you could rack up some good xp in there.

Leves seem to be the way to go until around level 25-30 when more people are looking to form parties. I'm not sure if you're exhausted all of your leve allowances doing gathering and stuff, but if you have a bunch of these saved up and you have some guardian aspect, it'll go somewhat quickly, but not as quickly as the above options.

Solo grinding is the worst way to go about it, at least in the lower levels when the xp gained is lower. You can only realistically solo stuff a couple levels over you at max to get the xp chains and even then they prove to be challenging fights. And when you need say 15000 xp and you're only getting 100 xp a kill, it just seems to feel like it's taking forever.

Don't forget you can also do behests every so often. At your level, it might be better to do them at the level 1 camps as I think they might get too hard at the level 10 camps at your level.
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#3 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 10:07:41 AM(UTC)
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If you have some high-level friends (hopefully a 50THM) and aren't vehemently against powerleveling, there are various ways to go about it.

1) Unclaimed aggro powerleveling (only works at very low levels)

For some reason, if monsters are one-shotted, the exp is granted to the person who got aggro, even if an outside party does the one-shotting. I used this to help my friend level THM from 15~20 in Shposhae (exp tapered off around 18 or 19, might have to move sooner than 20). Here's a map of where I used for a constant stream of aggro monsters; we just went around and around in a circle along the red line I've drawn (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Odlar/Shposhae_PL_Path.png). Once you've gathered up as many mobs as you can handle without dying, the PL just one-shots them all.

Important notes:
• This probably only works well with a THM PL due to their massive AOE
• This requires the PL (or you?) to have Stoneskin (stoneskin 2 is even better) and must cast it on you before every mob round-up, otherwise you'll die.

2) Claimed aggro powerleveling

For some reason, self-buffs claim all unclaimed aggro on you. Round up as many aggro monsters as you can without dying, then pop an instant self-buff like Featherfoot, Raging Strike, or Foresight, then have someone outside the party kill the claimed stuff.

Important notes:
• This obviously requires you to have self buffs, so this may not be an option if you have no other jobs leveled.
• Just like above, having stoneskin cast on you helps greatly

3) Invite/Drop powerleveling

I only learned about this one recently. You can have a high-level claim a bunch of monsters with you in their party (with dia/poison/bio/whatever), then have them drop party (or oust them). All the claimed monsters will remain claimed to you! Then the high-level just slaughters everything while you stand in a nearby safe place. The best part about this method is that you're never in any danger if your nearby safe place is sufficiently safe--all you have to do is invite and oust.

Important notes:
• This is the best option if you're getting several people powerleveled because only two people need to be present--the PL and the person doing the inviting/kicking.
• The best camps for this sort of killing are the small beastmen groups around those unused airship docks out in the middle of nowhere (NE of Horizon, NW of Bloodshore) so the low-level can stand around in complete safety within range to gain exp.
• This works best for moderately-high levels. I used this to take my GLA from 30 to 35 in Coerthas at an Ixali camp west of Glory.

4) Outside party killing

Claim something, have an outside party kill it. Simple as that.

5) Exp leeching

You get exp if you're within 10 levels of the highest level character in the party. This can sometimes allow you to be able to defeat things that would be impossible by yourself. This is only really useful if you can get in a full party where they don't mind that you're relatively useless.


If PLing is not an option, then I agree with all of the advice in the post above.

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#4 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:01:24 AM(UTC)
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If you are using leves to solo level up with, then once you reach a rank 5 levels higher than the starting level for the area, you can adjust the difficulty to two stars (three will take too long to kill) to slightly boost your EXP.

Example: For rank 10 leves once you reach rank 15 you can use two stars difficulty.

If you make it too high you will take too long to kill stuff, and the EXP boost will not be enough to make up for the extra effort.
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#5 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 12:17:21 PM(UTC)
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Raldo wrote:

3) Invite/Drop powerleveling

I only learned about this one recently. You can have a high-level claim a bunch of monsters with you in their party (with dia/poison/bio/whatever), then have them drop party (or oust them). All the claimed monsters will remain claimed to you! Then the high-level just slaughters everything while you stand in a nearby safe place. The best part about this method is that you're never in any danger if your nearby safe place is sufficiently safe--all you have to do is invite and oust.


Be careful with this one. I've heard that people are getting banned for it because it is considered an exploit. It's not quite the same as how PL'ing was broken when grouped with higher level players.

I imagine since it's a known issue it'll be fixed by 1.20 though.
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#6 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 12:39:27 PM(UTC)
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And the others aren't exploits? That's kind-of arbitrary.

Thanks for the notification though, I had not heard that.
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#7 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 4:05:07 PM(UTC)
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I would recommend playing with the stars on leves, you should be able to do level 10 ones that way until you hit 20. Being a marauder as opposed to say, an archer, you should be able to hold your ground against the stronger opponents. That's mostly how I managed to get to level 30 on pugilist on my own.

Once you get 10 levels over the leve level, it starts giving you a message about reward reduction, so move up to the next level of camp.


If you need it, I may have it. I keep almost anything that I loot. Look me up!
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 5:52:23 PM(UTC)
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Raldo wrote:
And the others aren't exploits? That's kind-of arbitrary.

Thanks for the notification though, I had not heard that.


Well even with methods 1 and 2 I'm sure those aren't "working as intended" but I haven't heard of anyone getting in trouble over those methods either. I'm pretty sure 4 and 5 were the acceptable means of PL'ing someone.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:08:24 PM(UTC)
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If you're just by yourself, Leves are the way to go.

Keep mobs at least "even match" so that you get chain bonuses.
If you're doing a L10 leve, when you hit L11 adjust difficulty to 2 star (changes all target mob from L10 to L13), when you hit 14 adjust to 3 star etc.

Save your "favour" effect for leves with more mobs because you get bonus exp "per mob" in battle leves as well as a bonus at the end of the fight.

There are a few leves "search and discover" types, where you can farm a lot of mobs with the bonus exp. Kill the firefly type mob (for free exp) to get a material to unmask the hidden mob, use it on the target mob, and only kill if it isn't a disguised mob. More fireflies will pop and more undisguised mobs too, then jsut kill the uncovered mob before time runs out to get the win bonus too.

Learn which leves are easy and which are tough in an area and choose difficulty accordingly. I'm a leve 37 Conjurer pretty much through leves only, and there are a few leves Humblehearth that I can do at 4-5 levels below the mob level, but also some that are really hard at the mob level. Learn which ones are easy and which ones kick your tail, and concentrate on the easy ones!

Lastly, if you can, do levels in the town where your class has its guild (once you hit the L20 leves) so you can get guild points to buy abilities).
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#10 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 3:34:41 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for all the replies... this will help me a lot getting on with my Marauder. I have not played this weekend but I hope to soon hit the leves again. If I can find someone to group with I will try that as well and IF I can find someone who would want to PL my I might give that a try as well.

I don't know how keen I am on PL though as I like to do this "right" :D I can see how this might be efficient though and I will consider.

Once again thanks for all the feedback. This is amazing information and should get me close to level 22 soon BigGrin
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#11 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 5:31:09 AM(UTC)
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yeah nice info up there^

I'm kinda like you Kida. In ffxi I would get pwrlvl'd gladly if I was in a pt and someone brought a high lvl mage along or get pwrlvl'd by a friend sometimes but I might enjoy a pwrlvl for a job or 2 in 14 but that's gonna be it. Jobs are so easy to lvl up in this game there is no point. I'm not a big race to lvl cap person.

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