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48BTN here; makes me glad that I never finished that push to 50, so I'll have some reason to do that much gathering. Same applies to DoH.

That being said, the DoL tools serve virtually no purpose until they add higher grades, since it's SO EASY to get your stats up to where they need to be to get maximum yields. The tools might grant you a tiny increase in HQ items. You could also argue that it should net you more items in theory, but most of the items that are worth anything have a maximum yield of 1.

Edited by user Friday, December 16, 2011 2:10:47 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

eh one thing at a time I guess. we'll see what happens but yeah they need to progess in certain areas a little faster and make things much tougher.

As I've done more of this new stuff I am starting to enjoy it. I like to stay busy and any issues we have right now will be improved upon as the next full year comes around.

I'm one of those who will pay no matter what. They seem to meet my expectations every time I have concerns and beyond. Some things take a little longer, some things aren't dealt with right away but I have patience and they are keeping me busy and that keeps me happy.

Just remember mmorpgs go in cycles.. they give us something, it has problems or we aren't happy, they make tweaks, improvements and additions and everything works out in the end.

Also, keep in mind for all those people who are not happy about this or that.. there is always someone out there that is so it basically evens out in the end unless it's just an across the board f*ck up.

I'm working on the fishing achievements myself and everything was going dandy for the first two of each region. I just got the 1000 G3s for La Noscea, so now I'm trying to get Thanalan's and the Shroud's. Just having a few problems though.

1. Where the hell are the G3 schools in Thanalan. Logic says they should be near near Horizon, but I walked all over western Thanalan and found nothing.

2. How the hell is anyone supposed to do the Shroud's G3 when there are only two schools miles apart and no spearfishing nodes nearby.

This is driving me batty. I had such good steam until this. The achievements are a bit on the sadistic side, that's for sure.

Kinda wish us fishers could just set up shop and get fishing in any grade water, not just nodes only. Wouldn't be fair to the miners and botanists though.

Hi Llen,

I haven't checked the schools in Horizon area yet. Best thing I can is suggest is use Gulleye/Dowse to determine if there's any schools to begin with. If it says "You don't sense any..." then you're kind of out of luck and are forced to fish in regular waters. This sucks because bite rates are so much better in schools. The same applies to Grade 4 in Black Shroud; (Humblehearth) the schools just don't exist.

I agree with you that the schools are pretty jacked up in the Tranquil area. You have to go in between the lake and Quarrymill and then fully deplete a spearfishing node to get those two to respawn. Would it have been so hard to put the schools in the streams where the spearfishing points are, or even 3 points spread across the lake?

As Vicious mentioned, you can just sit in any water type and fish and get the achievement. I've done this in a Grade 1 water to confirm it. Just keep in mind you won't actually get the achievement until you put away your rod after catching the requisite amount of fish. The only way I can think of to help keep track of this is use stackable bait, or count your fish at the end of a session. It's also a possibility that missed catches count towards the total too, but "Nothing Bites" do not.

I would feel free to put in a suggestion thread on the official forums with a corresponding dev tag (maybe [dev1282] since that deals with the minimap placement) and perhaps it can get some attention so with a future patch they can add and/or move some fishing schools.

I just started on the Luminary Hatchet...

I'm jealous of you fishers' ability to just stand in one spot for most (all?) of this. The walk between trees/shrubs feels like it's eating more time than I'm spending actually getting items.

So jealous...

Miners have to walk even more than BTN, I think -- boy do I feel bad for you guys.

Edited by user Monday, December 19, 2011 9:50:57 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I agree with your view on it Vicious. Either people are going to bot or they won't. This is more of a time sink than actually accomplishing something requiring some skill. Just like the comparison you gave between the Lu Shang Rod and Ebisu. Lu Shang you could buy the fish or fish them up or bot them and just turn them in. Ebisu you had to fish at weird times for things that could break your Lu Shang rod, then gut open the fish for a CHANCE at the items you needed to construct the rod.

I hope with 2.0 and a level cap raise that once we reach the next cap we'll have a quest challenging akin to that of the Ebisu rod for all of the DoL classes to give a true sense of accomplishment.

My starting class was fisher, been playing since early access immediately after open beta. Played open beta as well though. I wasn't anywhere near top ten to get 50 fishing because I didn't play as much as I could have, but I have been 50 since before they got rid of the G10 fishing spots. In all honesty, I don't mind these achievements that much. I absolutely love fishing. It's still the thing I do most in the game, and it's helping me collect a tonne of fish for my LSmates and my Grand Company.

Plus I have a reputation in my linkshell as "fishercat." Gotta keep that up.

yeah but see this is the kind of stuff I like. mmorpgs are just huge time sinks to me and not that I wanna think about it or know how much time of my life I waste playing lol .,..but I like the challenges. Not all have to be hard to accomplish either. It's just a matter of you did this, it was a long road to complete this goal and in the end you feel good about the accomplishment.

Just like when I got all my crafts in ffxi capped and took 2 to 100, got all guild items. Long road, goals accomplished.

Now could the rewards be better? Yeah so that can make it tougher to want to do this but these game are all about setting goals and reaching them. I never rush to finish things in these games anyway so it's always a long road for me. I'm doing the achievements as we speak while finishing Botany then Mining next.

Once I get these done I'll start back on my DD jobs and doing all the big fights and getting weapons like from Ifrit, etc.

That's not even talking about DoH jobs... which I need to get back on as well. This is why I don't understand how people can say there isn't anything to do in this game still... I'm like what?

Edited by user Saturday, December 24, 2011 6:51:20 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Good call. I've actually saved ALL the fish I've caught that I can actually use so far and have been crafting it off when I feel like spending the time. So far I've done the 1-10 and 11-20 achievements for alchemy and culinarian. I have a bunch of fish stocked up for 21-30, but I know it's going to take a while. I figured if you're having good luck with hasty hand, you can get about 300 synths (the 11-20 tier) done in about 2.5 hours. So multiply that by 3.33 and that's how long it's going to take for the 21-30 tiers. Not something to exactly do in one sitting. ;)

Of course I turned in as much crimson crayfish and velodyna carp as I could as I was fishing in those areas for GC marks, but I think I'm going to start fishing from Grade 2 up now.